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Greetings, dear listeners. This is Jonah Goldberg, host of the Remnant Podcasts,

brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media. In the grand tradition of this podcast,

counter-programming against breaking news, we're going to talk about the Trump arrest at all,

which is transpiring as we speak. Instead, we're going to, first and foremost, write a historic wrong,

of my AEI colleagues that I should have had on the podcast much earlier. Rick Hess is probably

at the top of the list. Among them, many reasons why that's the case is he's a good talker.

He knows an enormous amount about his field. But also, if AEI were a prison, he runs one of the most

powerful prison gangs at AEI, and everyone gives him a wide berth in the cafeteria. If he wants to

use the weight bench in the art, you just let him. So, with that said, Frederick Hess is a senior

fellow at AEI. He's the director of our education policies, where he works on K-12 and higher ed

issues. He's the founder and chairman of AEI's Conservative Education Reform Network. He writes

for Forbes, and he's the executive editor of Education Next. He's got a new book, writes many books.

He's written more books than I have. The great school rethink reimagining K-12's education after

the pandemic. Rick, welcome to the remnant. Hey, thanks, Jonah. Great to be with you, man.

The first question I always ask authors is, what's your book about? I want to go global on some

education stuff, but this might as well be the right way to enter it. So, what's your book about?

It's about education stuff. I've been doing this for, I don't know,

push on three decades. Most of my professional career has been watching would be reformers,

try to pick up big sticks and beat schools in a different shape. What's remarkable right now coming

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