Richard Schwartz and Tamala Floyd: Healing Across Generations: IFS + Ancestral Wisdom
Sounds True: Insights at the Edge
Tami Simon
4.6 • 1.9K Ratings
🗓️ 23 April 2026
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
What if the pain you've carried your whole life didn't begin with you? Tami Simon speaks with Richard Schwartz—founder of Internal Family Systems—and psychotherapist and IFS lead trainer Tamala Floyd, author of Listening: When Parts Speak, about the intersection of IFS and ancestral wisdom, and how healing legacy burdens can liberate not only ourselves, but the generations that come after us.
This conversation offers genuine transmission—not just concepts about awakening, but the palpable presence of realized teachers exploring the growing edge of spiritual understanding together. Originally aired on Sounds True One.
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| 0:00.0 | The Sounds True Podcast Network. |
| 0:10.8 | In this episode of Insights at the Edge, I'm joined by Dick Schwartz, someone I'm honored to call a friend, the founder of Internal Family Systems, and Tomola Floyd, |
| 0:24.6 | a psychotherapist and the first ever black individual to become a certified IFS lead trainer |
| 0:31.6 | and the author of listening when parts speak. They join together here for dialogue on the ways that IFS and |
| 0:41.8 | ancestral wisdom intersect to heal inter session, healing across generations, |
| 1:09.5 | a dialogue on internal family systems, IFS, and ancestral wisdom, |
| 1:17.2 | with Dick Schwartz and Tamila Floyd. Dick Schwartz is the founder of IFS, and with Sounds |
| 1:24.2 | True. He's the author of the best-selling book, No Bad Parts, |
| 1:28.8 | and a recent book with Thomas Hubell. |
| 1:31.5 | It's called Releasing Our Burdens, a Guide to Healing Individual, Ancestral, and Collective Trauma. |
| 1:40.5 | Dick is working on a new book with Sounds True. |
| 1:43.7 | It's on the spirituality of IFS. And we're also |
| 1:48.1 | offering a course on the spirituality of IFS, which you can still join if you're interested. |
| 1:55.8 | We're running the course now for the second time, and the second cohort is still open if you want to join us. |
| 2:03.7 | We're being joined for this conversation. I'm so pleased by Tamila Floyd, who has written |
| 2:10.8 | a gorgeous practical guidebook to IFS. It deepened my understanding of IFS in many new ways. I'm very grateful to Tamila. |
| 2:23.9 | It's called listening when parts speak, a practical guide to healing with IFS therapy and ancestor |
| 2:33.6 | wisdom. Tamila is a psychotherapist, a consultant, |
| 2:38.5 | an educator, and an IFS lead trainer. And here during Black History Month, I want to note |
| 2:47.6 | the historic role that Tamila Floyd has played within the IFS community as being |
| 2:55.1 | the first black person to become an IFS trainer. Kamala, Dick, welcome. Thank you for having us. |
| 3:07.4 | Always great. |
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