This is the BBC.

Genius. Genius.

Welcome to Evil Genius, the BBC podcast where we take prominent people from the past and ask,

do their talents outweigh their gitliness.

Think of your favourite rock star who turns out to be cold and dead on the inside.

R.T. icons who had no idea how to live.

Sometimes we'll even be flipping on its head, telling you lovely stuff about people you thought

were satanic arses. Can you still adore your hero once you know the dirty truths?

So let's find out if today's subject was more evil.

I hate this sound effect machine so much.

Then genius.

No grey areas please. By the end of the debate the subject will be shoved into one of those boxes.

That's it. We're going to be reductive on purpose.

Isn't it refreshing?

And helping me decide we have stand-up comedian, mama,

and I just can't get enough of Judy Lubble. I used to say that and then I saw a drunk on

brand and it turned out two hours was plenty.

We've also got in-ran news that weirdly knowledgeable in all things Japanese and with the

distinction of being the first comic from the free festival to be nominated for the prestigious

Edinburgh Comedy Awards. Well done, what an achievement.

And we've also got Kelly Convey a rapidly rocketly rising star who is laser'd from the nose down.

Yep, she's coming up through the comedy circuit with me getting it together load.

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