This is the BBC.

Genius. Genius.

Welcome to Evil Genius, the BBC podcast where we take legendary achievers from history and ask,

were they actually any good?

I'm talking stellar figures who were also rather rogue-ish, icons who were sometimes bang out of order.

Sometimes even revealing lovely stuff about people you thought were vile.

Can you still respect a vision,

revere the art or thinking once we've reflected on what utter dastards they were?

Or not?

Here I'm interested in agreeing on only one thing. Were they more evil?

Than Genius.

Traditional noise of genius there.

There are no grey areas in this studio.

At the end we'll be sticking the subject into one of those boxes and helping me be

reductive to the point of light entertainment.

I've got Rachel Paris, comedian musician and actor from Lester.

She's recently gone viral with her stuff on BBC 2's Mash Report.

She likes vintage dresses and long walks on the beach.

Hi.

Welcome Rachel, what's the most evil thing you've done?

It was when I was younger.

I do remember locking the next door neighbor's cat in a shed for a day.

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