Gabrielle Union strived for the perfection her father always demanded, but as a dark-skinned

black girl, she never felt like she was enough.

In our new series, Gabrielle Union, bigger, better, better, we'll tell you how she learned

to embrace the things that scared her and let go of her need to be perfect.

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Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Happens!

The podcast for all that crap we just love to talk about on Yeal Brons!

I'm Ronnie Caram, that's been Madelker over there, hello, a little boom.

Hello, hello, little Ronnie.

How's everything going today on this fine Monday?

You know, I'm just getting up to speed.

I don't know, I'm moving a little slowly, but I'm hoping a talk of Michael Derby getting

points and trousers for a baby will wake me up.

Yeah, I'm moving a little slowly too, which is weird because I'm on my second jug of

coffee and coffee doesn't really wake me up as much as it cracks me out while I'm still

tired.

I'm like, am I having a heart attack and falling asleep at the same time?

I'm in a guess that's possible, but...

Same, it does the exact same thing.

I feel both drowsy and energized at the same time and my body's in like a tug of war

and I don't really know where to go with it, but I actually have not had my coffee yet.

I just poured it, so I'm going to start on that right now.

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