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Richard Herring's Leicester Square Theatre Podcast (RHLSTP)

RHLSTP Book Club 165 - John Lloyd

Richard Herring's Leicester Square Theatre Podcast (RHLSTP)

British Comedy Guide

Tv & Film, Comedy, Performing Arts, Arts

4.75.8K Ratings

🗓️ 16 January 2026

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

RHLSTP Book Club #165 - The Meaning of Liff is 42 - Richard is back at the all new Podcast Room to chat again with comedy genius John Lloyd. They discuss yet another version of the fantastic Meaning of Liff book, this time for the 42nd anniversary of the first publication. They chat about where the idea came from, how John and Douglas Adams happily collaborated on this idea, even after falling out over Hitchhiker’s Guide, whether being bumped out of that project was actually the best thing for John, how money and fame never fill the hole that people who covet them hope it will fill, whether any of the definitions have achieved general acceptance, how John got Hitchhikers Guide on to the TV (even if they quickly shot him off into space), the legendary Not 1982 book that spawned the Meaning of Liff as a book (and Rich proudly brings in the copy of Not 1983 that he won at school) and how laughing til you cry at stupid ideas is one of the joys of comedy collaboration, even if the double act eventually ends in acrimony. Plus the genesis of the News Quiz, how perfectionism can lead to accusations of being difficult, why buying a yacht is a dick move and how John almost died the perfect comedy death.


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0:00.0

It's 2026. Hello, my fine friends. Welcome to my podcast feed. I hope you're having a great new year so far.

0:10.0

It's great. You admit it. You thought I wouldn't live this long. Here I am. 26 still to go. I'm not making any

0:16.3

predictions for my health at the end of this year, but I've got this far and that's delightful. Look, there's a few things going on. There's some live Rahaluskimos coming up, as you probably know. I'm in Leicester on the 8th of February with Fatsy El-Gori is one of my guests. She is fantastic. Don't miss that. We're up against Stephen Fry, but he's sold out out so hopefully you'll be forced to come and see us now

0:38.3

18th of february i'm in chelmsford with victoria angeloni and someone else and then there's

0:44.6

gigs in the 23rd of february in less square theatre 16th of marked at the square

0:49.1

theatre with david mitchell 20th of april hitler's birthday we be celebrating. Lester Square Theater. Do come along

0:56.6

if you can. Richard Herring.com slash Rahalesterpur for all those things. And do remember,

1:01.3

write bollocks. Autobiography, 5,000 words long, is available to pre-order at go fasterstripe.com.

1:09.0

All the money from that will go to make more podcasts as well.

1:13.3

Do become a badge at Gofastestripe.com slash badges if you want loads of benefits and

1:17.4

add free podcasts and get to know the guests earlier than everyone else and so on.

1:22.3

You know the drill by now.

1:23.6

Anyway, thanks for your time.

1:25.7

Thanks for your effort.

1:26.9

Now listen to a podcast.

1:31.4

Hello, welcome to another Rahalistaba Book Club this week. I'm delighted to be joined by John Lloyd, who is reissuing the meaning of lift, and this is called the meaning of lift is 42. It's a very good cash in. But this is 42, of Lift, and this is called The Meaning of Lift, is 42. It's a very good cash-in.

1:46.5

This is 42, of course, being a very significant number in the co-author of this book, which is Douglas Adams.

1:52.4

Hello, John. Hello, Richard. How lovely to be here.

1:55.1

I'm really lovely to have you on again. I'm lovely to see you. And really lovely to have another look at Meaning of Lift, which I have, I think, at least one. I've certainly got both the afterliff as well. I think I might have more than one copy of Meaning of Liff. You've got an afterliff, that's good. Yeah, I've definitely got afterliff. And it has been reissued a few times. Rightly so as well, because it's an enduring classic. Do you want to tell us, as you do in the

2:22.4

intro to this, tell us a little bit about the creation of meaning of lift first and where this

2:28.2

idea came from? Yeah, well, Douglas Adams was my very best friend. We were very, very close.

2:35.2

We tried to be writers together.

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