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Rhiannon Interviews Mahmoud Khalil

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Prologue Projects

Government, News, News Commentary

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 18 October 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of Popular Cradle, (Rhiannon’s other podcast!), she interviews Columbia grad student Mahmoud Khalil, who was detained by ICE for more than 100 days earlier this year. You can find Popular Cradle wherever you listen to podcasts.



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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey y'all, it's Riannan. Just wanted to hop in here and introduce my other podcast, Popular Cradle,

0:06.4

to Five Four listeners. Popular Cradle is a podcast about Palestine and the struggle for Palestinian

0:12.1

liberation from here in the far diaspora. I am dropping this particular episode of Popular Cradle

0:18.9

into the 5-4 feed because I think you 5-4

0:22.1

listeners will really appreciate it because it connects directly with someone we've talked about

0:27.4

on the podcast several times now, someone who is a real inspiration to me. I'm not going to do a

0:34.5

duplicative intro here. You're going to hear all about it. I'm just going to say,

0:39.2

run the tape. And I hope you enjoy this episode of Popular Cradle. Salute to the free people of the

0:45.1

world, the ordinary, all of us here who have given our times, who have given our lives to an

0:50.9

extraordinary struggle, the struggle for the liberation of Palestine.

0:56.1

Friends and comrades, welcome to the second annual people's conference for Palestine.

1:05.2

Salam, everyone, welcome to Popular Cradle.

1:08.3

This is Rianan with you today, and we are bringing you a special

1:12.5

episode of the podcast coming off of our time at the second annual People's Conference for

1:18.0

Palestine in Detroit. This was a convening of the Palestine movement hosted by the PYM over Labor Day

1:26.2

weekend. We were lucky enough to go attend the

1:29.7

conference and to record some of our time there. And so this is going to be episode one of

1:36.0

a series where we will be taking you with us to the People's Conference and sharing

1:41.2

interviews we did with speakers and attendees while we were there.

1:45.2

We're talking about organizers, labor leaders, lawyers, cultural workers, all sorts of folks.

1:52.0

So in this episode, you're going to hear some of my own first impressions of arriving at the people's conference.

1:58.9

And then we will move into hearing from Mahmoud Khalil, the Palestinian Columbia University

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