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The Lindsey Elmore Show

Revolutionizing Medical First Aid: The Journey of QuikClot | Charles Barber and Bart Gullong

The Lindsey Elmore Show

Lindsey Elmore

Health & Fitness, Nutrition, Alternative Health, Medicine

5.0 • 529 Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2023

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Charles Barber, author of In the Blood, is a Writer in Residence at Wesleyan University, a Lecturer in Psychiatry at the Yale University School of Medicine, and the author of the critically acclaimed books Songs from the Black Chair: A Memoir of Mental Interiors (Univ. of Nebraska, 2005), Comfortably Numb: How Psychiatry is Medicating a Nation (Pantheon, 2008), and Citizen Outlaw: One Man’s Journey from Gangleader to Peacekeeper (Ecco, 2019). The title essay of his first book won a 2006 Pushcart Prize. His work has appeared in The New York Times and the Washington Post, among dozens of publications. He has been a guest on the Today Show, the Morning Show, CNN, BBC, and NPR’s Fresh Air. He was educated at Harvard and Columbia universities, and lives in Connecticut with his family.  Bart Gullong grew up in Old Saybrook and Wethersfield, Connecticut, attending local schools before graduating from Tabor Academy in Massachusetts. He earned a degree in English from Marietta College in Ohio, and later received a master’s degree in Counseling from Central Connecticut State University. In high school and college, he was a top-level rower and directly after college became a high school and college rowing coach, at Simsbury High School and then Connecticut College. He recruited future Olympians at Conn College, and in his second year as a coach, his crew finished second in the country. By age 25, he was a US Women’s crew national coach, and athletes he recruited formed a nucleus of the medal-winning 1976 Olympic team.  He changed careers in his late twenties to become an entrepreneur. Moving to Long Island, he variously worked for NASA as a consultant on the Space Shuttle, developed an early video game company, and co-invented and marketed a speedometer for rowing teams.  At age 50, he met his future business partner Frank Hursey, and Gullong’s career took on a new course, although his earlier experiences as an elite coach and inventor/entrepreneur fueled the next stage of his career. Working with Hursey, he brought to the attention of the military a miraculous blood clotting product, QuikClot, that Hursey had discovered two decades before. QuikClot was immediately adopted by all branches of the military but the Army and was credited with saving many lives in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now QuikClot (also known as Combat Gauze) is in all American military first aid kits, and is used by first responders worldwide. The small company that Gullong and Hursey created in 2002 out of a workshop recently sold for more than half a billion dollars.   Topics covered in this episode: QuikClot Introduction  QuikClot User Surviving a Tragic AccidentMilitary Medicine  Advancements in Battlefield Injury TreatmentScience and Innovation in Protecting Soldiers' LivesApplication in Civilian Settings  Natural DisastersSafety and Efficacy of ZeoliteIntroducing QuikClot to the MarketReducing Mortality RatesEmergency Kits and First Responder GearPerseverance and Grit  Achieving SuccessNobel Prize in Medicine  Contributions of InnovatorsControversies and Politics  Global Reach  Humanitarian Mission To learn more about Charles Barber and Bart Gullong and their work, head over to https://www.charlesbarberwriting.com/__________________________________________________________ After my conversation today, I am 100% sold on QuikClot. I hope that every person that listens to this episode goes to http://www.lindseyelmore.com/clot, to pick up two pieces of QuikClot gauze in a resealable pouch that fits easily into any trauma kit.   The QuikClot gauze has been used by hospitals, emergency services, military first responders, law enforcement, general public, and outdoorsmen. It fits perfectly into any first aid kit, any suture kit, any medical kit, or any survival kit. Grab a couple of them. Leave one in your car, one in your camping gear, and one in your emergency kit as well as one in your family's first aid kit. Use the QuikClot Advanced Clotting gauze to stop bleeding five times faster. __________________________________________________________ Mission 22 helps veterans, active duty, military, and those who are injured in training and could not deploy who are affected by mental health disorders. It aims to help prevent suicide in veterans and active duty military because 22 service men and women commit suicide every single day because of the stress and the trauma that they have been through in service to our country.Head to http://www.lindseyelmore.com/amare to save $10 off of your first order to help support your mental wellness, as well as provide mental wellness to our veterans.   ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ We hope you enjoyed this episode. Come check us out at www.lindseyelmore.com/podcast.   

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0:23.3

Welcome back, everybody, to the Lindsay Elmore show. So excited to have you back again to listen. There is a reason that this show is so popular, and it is because of listeners like you who share the episodes with their friends. Listen to what we're talking about today, listeners. At the 1993 Battle of Mogadishu, which was dramatized by the popular film Black Hawk Down,

0:29.7

the majority of soldiers who died were killed instantly or bled to death before they could reach the operating table. This tragedy reinforced the need for a revolutionary treatment that could

0:37.0

transform trauma medicine. So when Frank

0:40.1

Hersey and Bart Goulong, who had no medical or military experience, discovered that a cheap

0:47.2

crushed rock called Zeolite had blood clotting property, they quickly brought it to the military's attention.

0:55.3

The Marines and the Navy quickly adopted a product called QuickClot. The Army, however,

1:01.3

resisted because there were two products on their own being developed to prevent excessive bleeding,

1:09.8

one of which costs tens of millions of dollars.

1:13.4

The other, Factor 7, had a more dangerous complication.

1:17.0

The side effects of clotting factors can be deadly.

1:22.5

Unwilling to let its efforts end in failure and led by a highly influential army surgeon colonel john holcomb the army set out on a smear campaign against quick clots reputation

1:36.7

over the course of the next six years hersey and gulong engaged in an epic struggle with Holcomb for recognition.

1:46.1

Ultimately, a whistleblower inside of the army challenged the army's embrace of Factor

1:51.1

7, which led to a massive lawsuit by the U.S. Department of Justice.

1:57.0

The lawsuit focused further attention on the financial ties between the pharmaceutical

2:02.0

company that produced Factor 7 and Colonel Holcomb's Research Institute. By withholding

2:09.2

quick clot, which later became known as a medical miracle during the Iraqi war, and in the use

2:16.2

of Factor 7, with its known life-threatening risk of heart

2:19.9

attacks and strokes, the lives of thousands of soldiers were imperiled. Using deep reportage

2:27.0

and riveting prose, in the blood, the book that recounts the little-known David and Goliath story of corruption, greed, and power

2:36.7

within the military and the devastating consequences of unchecked institutional arrogance.

2:44.6

Let's talk with the author of In the Blood as well as the salesman that helped to bring this life-saving device to not only

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