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Learning How to See with Brian McLaren

Revolution Stories

Learning How to See with Brian McLaren

Center for Action and Contemplation

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.8748 Ratings

🗓️ 20 October 2023

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

“If you want a better world, tell a better story — especially one that centers justice without vengeance.” –Gareth Higgins  How do we tell stories that offer us the best chance of creating a more peaceful and loving reality? In this episode of Learning How to See, we're exploring stories of revolution. Although these tales often contain values of heroism and liberty, they are more likely to feed into the cycle of violence rather than end it.  Resources: The transcript for this episode can be found here. To learn more about Gareth Higgins, click here. To learn more about Brian McLaren, click here. To explore the seven stories in more depth, visit the website here. You'll find details about the children's book, essays for adults, and more. Connect with us: Have a question you'd like Brian or Gareth to answer about the seven stories? Email us: podcasts@cac.org or leave us voicemail. Questions for this season will only be accepted until November 22nd, 2023. This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at https://cac.org/support-cac/podcasts/ Thank you!

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0:00.0

I grew up in Northern Ireland or the north of Ireland. We don't even agree on the name of the place.

0:07.5

And it's a place where violence was used for political ends throughout my childhood. Nearly 4,000 people were killed and over 40,000 directly physically injured and countless hundreds of

0:23.3

thousands traumatized or otherwise wounded by a conflict rooted in the domination story but met by

0:32.4

the revolution story.

0:35.4

I'm not sure that I like the word revolution because it's been applied to movements

0:39.4

for the common good. But if we take it literally, it actually means a movement that ends up exactly

0:45.7

where it started. So the second of the six stories of separation, scapegoating and selfishness,

0:52.2

might be better framed as the revenge story.

0:56.5

Having said that, I think the word revolution works as a title because movements that

1:02.2

overthrow repressive regimes have not always replaced them with something better.

1:07.6

In fact, unless a restorative consciousness is engaged, revolutions run the risk of merely turning the tables, replacing one set of broken relationships with yet more domination.

1:20.6

Perhaps a slightly less oppressive form of domination, but domination nonetheless.

1:26.6

Instead of replacing domination with more domination, but domination nonetheless. Instead of replacing domination with more domination, we need to imagine societies and

1:33.5

institutions in which everyone is welcome at the table.

1:37.6

The only rule for joining would be to agree not to harm anyone.

1:43.5

For that to happen, the table needs to be enlarged, not flipped over.

1:48.9

And more people, the widest range possible,

1:51.0

need to be involved in making and setting the table.

1:54.0

It's not my table, nor is it theirs.

1:57.9

In the spirit of the seventh story of liberation and reconciliation, it's love's table.

2:05.0

And love, as they say, love is not a victory march, but often an act of courage to stretch ourselves

2:13.5

for the sake of something more than the gratification of our own ego or our own try.

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