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Learning How to See with Brian McLaren

Purification Stories

Learning How to See with Brian McLaren

Center for Action and Contemplation

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.8748 Ratings

🗓️ 27 October 2023

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

“Almost everybody who does evil has convinced themselves that they are doing good.” —Brian McLaren   Have you ever convinced yourself that an unloving act was justified? In this episode, we're asking ourselves the tough questions and peeling back the layers of the Purification Story — a narrative with complex dynamics that can lead us to harmful interactions with others and ourselves.   Resources: The transcript for this episode can be found here. To learn more about Gareth Higgins, click here. To learn more about Brian McLaren, click here. To explore the seven stories in more depth, visit the website here. You'll find details about the children's book, essays for adults, and more. Connect with us: Have a question you'd like Brian or Gareth to answer about the seven stories? Email us: podcasts@cac.org or leave us voicemail. Questions for this season will only be accepted until November 22nd, 2023. This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at https://cac.org/support-cac/podcasts/ Thank you!

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0:00.0

There's a scary tendency you find in human societies. You find it across nations, across cultures,

0:07.1

religions, centuries, social classes. It may have its roots in our primate ancestors, something we see

0:14.7

today in chimpanzees called coalitionary aggression. Anthropologist Renee Gerard explored it

0:22.5

in something called memetic theory

0:24.4

or the scapegoating mechanism.

0:27.0

It's this tendency of human beings

0:30.9

who form groups to then divide their in-group,

0:35.6

to find some minority within their in-group that the majority then begins

0:42.2

to bully or pester or pick on or insult or marginalize.

0:50.4

What tends to happen is the majority calls itself clean and this minority they call unclean.

0:58.0

The majority is acceptable. The majority is normal and the minority is queer or odd or different or some other epithet. The majority eventually creates a kind of coalitionary

1:16.4

aggression against the minority. And in so doing, they make themselves feel good, they make

1:24.5

themselves feel superior, they make themselves feel clean and righteous.

1:29.3

And they unite themselves because now they've created a common enemy close at hand.

1:36.7

Two quick examples from American history. While white Americans were maintaining the segregated south

1:43.4

and maintaining a segregated north, too,

1:49.0

they were not preoccupied with facing their own racial problems.

1:56.0

Instead, they were engaging in prohibition where alcohol was seen as the great enemy and alcoholics were the big problem.

2:04.6

And they were engaged in a long struggle against evolution.

2:09.6

This, by the way, is not only the period of maintaining the Jim Crow South,

2:13.6

but it was a period during which horrible atrocities were being done to Native Americans.

2:22.1

And it's as if it's almost a method of distraction to distract ourselves and others from these

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