From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is The Business.

I walk into a room and I'm like, I want to make a film.

It's about my Chinese grandmother.

I want to make it as an American film, American financed, American perspective.

But the entire cast is Chinese, Chinese American.

And this was before Crazy Regations.

Major point, yeah.

Right, exactly.

When filmmaker Lulu Wang set out to make a personal movie, largely set in China, mostly in Mandarin, she had a clear pitch, but buyers weren't biting.

This week we're revisiting our conversation with Wong.

She tells us about the circuitous route to making the farewell, which went from public radio to Sundance success to indie hit to awards contender.

The American Film Institute included The Farewell in its list of 10 outstanding films of 2019.

But first, we banter.

Stay tuned. It's the business from KCRW.

Music Stay tuned. It's the business from KCRW. So to kick off the new year, I am joined by two banter buddies, Lucas Shaw, entertainment reporter at Bloomberg, and, of course, Matt Bellany of the Hollywood reporter. Hello, Lucas and Matt.

Hey, Kim. Hello.

We're going to look ahead a little bit, just a little quick preview of the year ahead.

On a previous show, we'd hashed over the entire year, and we talked about the streaming

wars and where that will go.

So we don't need to revisit that.

For this conversation, people who want to hear what we thought about where Apple and Disney

and all of these companies will be going, can just go back

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