Revisiting Debbie Collier's Case | New Updates and Insights

Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

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🗓️ 28 February 2023

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Debbie Collier, a Georgia resident, is reported missing on September 10th, 2022 after sending her daughter, Amanda, a Venmo payment for $2,385 with a message saying, “They are not going to let me go, love you.” She was found dead the next day in a ravine more than an hour north from her home. The newly released autopsy report reveals that when her body was found 80% of it was covered in second and third degree burns. Which is one of many reasons why the public was surprised to hear that the death has been ruled a suicide.

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and special guest co-host Dave Mack discuss Collier’s burns, the state of her clothing, the lack of debris found in her trachea, why police have ruled this a suicide, and much more.

Show Notes:

0:00 - Intro

0:52 - Background and overview of case

4:45 - Debbie Collier’s clothing and what it tells us

8:45 - The autopsy report and Collier’s burns

11:30 - Burning to kill vs. burning to cover something up

13:05 - No evidence of debris in her trachea

15:05 - Police ruling this a suicide

18:25 - Carboxyhemoglobin level and hydrocodone

19:50 - Is there an indication that the burning took place after death?

22:10 - Manner of death

24:00 - Was this really a suicide?

25:40 - Do police sometimes downplay what they’ve seen to the public?

29:00 - Outro

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0:00.0	We're body bags with Joseph Scott Morgan.
0:20.6	Debbie Collier, I can't say that name without scratching my head a little bit because arguably
0:25.3	her death is one of the most bizarre that certainly I've covered in the past I don't know two years
0:32.7	probably and now we have some answers and today we're going to talk about this update involving
0:39.4	the death of this 59-year-old office manager from Georgia. I'm Joseph Scott Morgan and this is
0:48.0	body bags. Wow and I'm glad to have my buddy Dave Mack with me today. Dave is a crime reporter for
0:58.1	crime online. This case is something that we've covered I don't know for several months now I think
1:03.3	and certainly it left us all a bit befuddled I think because just in and of itself the fact that
1:11.5	her death was so closely associated with a fire it was in isolation kind of a very remote area
1:19.6	and there was nothing apparently stolen or missing from her it was just this kind of stand-alone
1:25.0	event that's had a lot of people really really asking a lot of questions I don't know do we
1:30.2	actually have answers now. I think we have some she's a 59-year-old who worked as an office manager
1:36.5	for a real estate company in Athens Georgia. Athens Georgia is outside of Atlanta it's where
1:42.0	the Georgia Bulldogs play and that does come into play here okay so from a timeline of events
1:48.8	on September 10th Debbie Collier sent a Venmo payment to her daughter at 317 pm that Venmo
1:58.5	payment was $4,385 and it had a cryptic message they are not going to let me go love you there is
2:10.2	a key to the house in the blue flower pot by the door it set off alarm bells because her daughter Amanda
2:17.9	was not expecting this payment from all we can find out Debbie Collier had never sent a payment
2:23.3	that large through Venmo that's what started all of this Amanda calls her dad Debbie's husband
2:30.2	he's been parking cars for the Georgia Bulldogs football game since 9 o'clock that morning
2:34.9	he gets home around 4 and they start talking try to figure out what happened around 6 o'clock
2:41.8	they call 911 we don't know where she is we haven't seen her and we have this crazy message
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