We are in a moment of profound truth-telling, discovering how we have been harmed and how we are implicated in harming.

We are naming with clarity that every day and ritualized

violences that people face. Underneath all of this opening sits a quiet

question and wait. It might be the hardest question. What do we do now? Where do we go from here?

Where do we need to change now that we know? Do we choose comfort over challenge? Do we choose

choose fracture over repair?

My conversation today with Kazu

covers a lot of ground, but really circles around these fundamental inquiries.

When harm happens, when violence exists. Where are you? And what are you willing to do to repair?

Kazuhaga is the founder of the East Point Peace Academy, he's a core member of the

Ahimsa Collective, and he's the author of Healing Resistance, a radically different

response to harm. Kazu shares with us the principles that we can choose to hold on to to practice when things fall apart.

I really, really enjoyed being in this conversation with a fellow facilitator and someone who is such a thoughtful, generous leader.

I hope you enjoy this conversation.

Hi Kazu, I feel really excited that you're here to talk with us today. It's been a long time.

It has been a while. Yeah, thanks so much for having me.

So the kind of impetus I guess for this podcast is that I wanted to gather people together who felt like they were offering some way forward or some piece of what the future could be to share kind of the texture the richness of what they see that

experience and so I always start off each episode with the question where are we right now?

And asking that to you from whatever vantage point

you want to offer it, but how would you describe this moment?

Where are we?

What is it important to be paying attention to? What do you see?

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