Hi folks and welcome to the Meaningful Money Podcast, this is session number 500 and 8.

Yes, did welcome back to the first of four in-between the soles before we crack on again with the next season, that's season 26, in just a few weeks.

And today I'm bringing you a conversation that I had with my friend Justin King, fellow financial planner, fellow podcaster.

And this episode, this conversation rather was done for his podcast, it's called the Retirement Cafe podcast.

Many of you will doubtless already listen to that show as well as this one and if you don't, you definitely should, especially if you're heading towards retirement or just recently retired, it's a perfect show for you.

So Justin asked me to interview him on his show about his book, I was kind of a guest interviewer, interviewer.

And the book was released, well the day before this episode goes out, it was released on the 12th of September.

The book is called the Retirement Cafe Handbook and I read a pre-release copy before interviewing Justin and I'm not exaggerating when I say it's an outstanding read.

I get sent a lot of books to read, right? And particularly quite a lot of self-published ones and this is an outstanding piece of work, he's done a brilliant job with it.

And Justin kindly allowed me to use the audio from my interview with him on his show and that's what you're about to hear.

So I'll make sure any links that we mention are at the show notes, that's meaningful money.tv-session508, that's meaningful money.tv-session508, without further ado, here is my conversation with my good buddy Justin King.

Well, this is fun and a real honour to be asked by my buddy Justin to be a guest interviewer for the Retirement Cafe podcast. Thank you for having me Justin.

Welcome back Pete, welcome back, it's wonderful to chat to you.

Well, you very kindly sent me an advanced copy of the book, I get sent quite a lot of books and I read a lot of books.

And we're going to talk about it today, but right at the top, let me just say you've done an outstanding job of this.

So I'm really looking forward to getting into it and the reasons behind it, the triggers and the whole structure of it,

without giving too much away, of course, so that lots of people buy it because they should, but you know, you're a busy man, right?

30 odd year veteran financial planner, 180 odd episodes of this very podcast, you've got a lot going on man, so why, you know, do you have too much spare time?

Whatever, why write a book on top of all that?

No, I don't have too much spare time with me, but, but, you know, again, this, the Retirement Cafe podcast was born out of trying to help just regular people in the street kind of make better decisions about their retirement.

And these came off the back at the podcast, came off the back of live events, which we used to put on in the community for free, then realised that was costing us quite a while, so they went down the podcast room and it gave me obviously access to so many experts.

In their different fields, who were so generous in giving their time to come and chat to me, and then, and then it was like, you know, well, yeah, you're right, 100 odd, God knows, you know, 180 odd episodes, four and a half years of the podcast, coming up to five years.

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