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Go to LinkedIn.com slash lead to claim your offer. Terms and conditions apply. John, welcome to Lockton. We've been talking about doing this for a couple months now. Great to be here. You reached out to me, I think, on Facebook, right? Saying you watch the show. I remember I liked your style. I like the way you kind of do both perspectives, a person being locked up and on the other

side, law enforcement.

I like a person that gets both sides of the story.

Not to say that this is enemy, you know, against enemy, it's not, like we were talking

earlier.

In the beginning, I thought it was like that.

But then as time goes on and you mature and you see things, you gain a different type of intelligence of the matter.

Yeah, and I think people love the dynamic of like former, you know, someone that was incarcerated with former law enforcement.

Right.

And that also helps break down barriers too with law enforcement. Right. And that also helps break down barriers too.

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