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From KQED.

Welcome to Forum. I'm Mina Kim. Dr. Suzanne Song has worked with survivors of the

2023 mass shooting in Monterey Park with unaccompanied minors at the southern border.

Farther from home, she has worked with child soldiers,

survivors of torture, and trafficking, and other egregious human rights violations.

One of the things that is fascinated song are the people she's met who have been able to

not only survive but flourish after extreme trauma, realizing they often share one quality,

which helped inspire her new book, called We Suffer and How We Heal.

Dr. Song is a psychiatrist and humanitarian policy advisor with a private practice in Washington, D.C.

in California, Suzanne, welcome to Forum.

Thanks so much for having me.

So I mentioned some of the people and issues you've

studied, but you work with a really broad range of people, right, through both your research and

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