Paying for Graduate School Is Going To Get Harder
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🗓️ 21 April 2026
⏱️ 55 minutes
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| 0:59.2 | Welcome to Forum. I'm Alexis Madrigal. |
| 1:02.2 | Look, higher education has gotten too expensive. I think just about everyone agrees on that. |
| 1:06.4 | And there are many fields where it's highly unlikely that an expensive graduate education will |
| 1:12.0 | make easy economic sense like in say social work or journalism the patchwork over |
| 1:19.2 | this difficult situation has been an array of federal loan programs which have now |
| 1:23.7 | been scrambled and overhauled by the Trump administration today we're going to talk about these reforms and other prospective changes. |
| 1:30.4 | To the student loan landscape, we're joined by Jordan Matsudaira, who's a professor and director of the post-secondary education and economics research center at the School of Public Affairs at American University, a former deputy undersecretary and chief |
| 1:45.8 | economist at the Department of Education during the Biden administration. Welcome, Jordan. |
| 1:51.3 | Hi, Alexis. Thanks for having me. Yeah, great to have you. We also have Aisa Contola Banjas, |
| 1:56.1 | whose policy director at Protect Borrowers, that's an advocacy group focused on issues of debt. Welcome. |
| 2:03.3 | Thank you so much. And we've got Jessica Blake, a policy reporter with Inside Higher Ed. Welcome, Jessica. |
| 2:10.6 | Thanks for having me. Yeah. Jessica, let's start with you. I mean, there's these changes to the federal |
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