Retake and Reapply (Ep. 436)
Thinking LSAT
Nathan Fox and Ben Olson
4.8 • 868 Ratings
🗓️ 8 January 2024
⏱️ 70 minutes
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Summary
Many applicants face a dilemma at this point in the admissions cycle: Do they settle for a mediocre LSAT score and uninspiring scholarship offers? Or do they retake the LSAT and reapply next year? To Ben and Nathan, the choice is clear. There’s too much upside and too little downside not to take the long-term approach. Later, the guys explain why common sense trumps formal logic on the LSAT. They speculate that the LSAT will soon increase in difficulty. And they discuss the proper use of law school rankings.
1:45 - How to Start Studying - After a five-year break from the LSAT, listener Ellen asks how to restart her studies. Nathan and Ben answer simply: begin with one question.
5:26 - Retake and Reapply - Listener Dale believes that he can improve upon his official 166, but he fears that his parents won't support his decision to retake and reapply next cycle. Ben and Nathan recommend patience. The beginning of your legal career is too important to rush.
16:22 - Formal Logic - The guys assure listener Alexis that the LSAT requires no knowledge of formal logic. It just takes common sense. For more, watch LSAT Demon Daily, Ep. 384: Formal Logic.
23:31 - No Gimmicks - An LSAT Demon student seeks time-saving strategies based on trends in correct-answer distribution for certain question types. The problem? Those trends don’t exist.
31:40 - Will the LSAT Get Harder? - Nathan and Ben suspect that the LSAT may soon become more difficult—but not because the Logic Games are going away.
38:05 - Law School Rankings - Ben and Nathan suggest that applicants use law school rankings to help build a list of target schools, not to decide which school to attend.
49:00 - Success Story - A proud dad thanks the LSAT Demon team for helping his family save $250,000.
53:23 - Don’t Go to Law School Unless… - The guys congratulate LSAT Demon student Alex for deciding not to go to law school.
58:44 - Words of the Week - Those who recoil from new words may find their antipathy to vocabulary inimical to the inauguration of a legal career.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and |
| 0:07.0 | welcome to episode 436 of the Thinking Elsap Podcast. |
| 0:11.0 | I'm Ben Olsen and with me is Nathan Fox. |
| 0:14.6 | We're the co-founder of Elsat Demon.com |
| 0:16.5 | and the Elsat Demon Daily Podcast. |
| 0:19.1 | If you want to be Elsat Famous, |
| 0:20.9 | you can share news and ask questions on our website that's thinking |
| 0:24.2 | Elsat.com coming up on Wednesday January 24th at 9 p.m. eastern we have a free |
| 0:31.0 | class that's for everyone you just just need a demon free account which you can get at el sad demon.com |
| 0:37.3 | This is gonna be double black diamond with you Nathan that is a challenging class, right? |
| 0:44.3 | Well, it's an expert level logical reasoning class. |
| 0:47.6 | I do a whole bunch of level five, some level four, |
| 0:51.7 | difficulty L.R. questions. |
| 0:54.3 | It's my, for me, it's probably the most fun class I teach |
| 0:57.6 | because I just get to run through a bunch of L.R. questions |
| 1:01.0 | and kind of yell at them, you know? I mean, that's how we do L.R. It's really fun once you learn |
| 1:07.2 | how to do it the right way. You just kind of get in there and engage with, critically |
| 1:12.4 | engage with what you're reading and there's usually |
| 1:16.2 | stuff in there that you can object to. The logic doesn't really make sense and so you can take these really hard questions and turn them into really easy questions |
| 1:27.2 | just with the kind of aggressive mindset that we like to teach so So yeah double Black Diamond Wednesday, January 24th 9 PM |
| 1:37.0 | Eastern time. It's just a one hour class and go to L-SAT dot And you go to L-Sat. |
| 1:43.0 | Forward slash free to sign up for that. |
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