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🗓️ 15 January 2024
⏱️ 78 minutes
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Jonea Gordon left her job as a lawyer and quadrupled her salary. She’s now a data privacy expert who has worked with some of the biggest tech companies in the world on issues like artificial intelligence and augmented reality. Jonea joins Ben to share the story of her career, offer advice on networking and negotiation, and explain why her experience as a litigator remains invaluable to her work in tech.
1:56 - Expectations vs. Reality in Legal Practice - Jonea recounts her path to legal practice and her discovery that litigation wasn’t right for her.
23:44 - From Law to Tech - Jonea prefers her work in data privacy to the toil of legal practice. But she doesn’t regret becoming an attorney. Jonea describes how the skills she honed as a litigator remain crucial to her work in tech.
33:51 - Networking - Jonea shares simple networking techniques that she used to advance and transform her career.
44:38 - Negotiation - Jonea encourages listeners to overcome their fear of negotiation and to advocate for themselves. As her career shows, good things happen to those who ask for what they want.
53:32 - Connect with Jonea - Jonea invites listeners to connect with her on her website or on social media @joneagordon_esq.
54:58 - LSAT Experimental Sections - Nathan and Ben discuss why test takers are unlikely to see Logic Games on future experimental sections.
1:07:34 - Words of the Week - Here’s some avuncular advice: beware of anomie in the legal profession.
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0:00.0 | Ask for what you want with no fear because nothing bad is going to happen. |
0:04.8 | I like no one handed me $400,000, right? |
0:08.8 | Like I've advocated for myself very strongly in my one-on-one meetings with managers like I'm |
0:14.6 | managing them I'm saying this is what I want here so I'm going to get there |
0:18.8 | you know how are you going to help me do this I know how to have those conversations |
0:22.4 | but I'm not their boss. I have to be able to |
0:24.9 | influence them without having authority over them. And I use a ton of my litigation |
0:30.4 | skills sets and being able to do that right and so I use my litigation |
0:36.0 | skill sets every single day I think it is the most valuable experience that I that I |
0:40.5 | had even though I ultimately you know didn't like it for a lot of reasons, not only the culture, but you know, there were a lot of things about litigation that didn't end up just, you know, thinking up for me, but I still think it's a really really really valuable place to start out. |
0:55.0 | Hello and |
1:03.0 | welcome to episode 437 of the Thinking El-Sat Podcast. |
1:07.0 | I'm Ben Olson. |
1:09.0 | I'm one of the co-founders of Elsat Demon. |
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1:25.0 | That's thinking Elsat.com. |
1:28.0 | Coming up next week, Wednesday, January 24th, Nathan is going to be hosting a free class that's double, that's his double black |
1:35.7 | diamond class. |
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