Hello and is the 4th of July and because I took a little break and now I'm back and it's the 4th of

July and America stuff.

I'm actually going to drop two episodes today.

This is the first of the two of our 4th of July extravaganza focusing on

uh...

shit that's wrong with America

uh... what a way to celebrate right uh... the first

uh... guest uh... guests are back too.

So these last couple of days I've been interviewing a couple people, Dustin off my interviewing skills,

hopefully I still have them. But my first guest for

this 4th of July Extravaganza is a retired sergeant Carl Tenenbaum of the San Francisco Police Department.

Carl is now a speaker for Leep, which stands for law enforcement against prohibition.

Carl was a narcotics officer for part of his tenure as a member of the SFD and that experience greatly impacted his view on policing and what the police do and after he retired he joined Leep as a very outspoken critic of

America's war on drugs the so-called war on drugs which is an epic failure, which we get into the various levels of that's

of that and talking to Carl was great, you know, I've been wanting to talk to someone

involved in law enforcement and considering everything that's

fucking going on in the world right now and the country right now. And we not only talk about the

failed drug war and how it's failed and how we could turn it around and what ending the prohibition on drugs would do. All drugs, yes, all

drugs, Carl thinks all drugs should be legal and so do I. And we get into into that the specifics of that and how a world, how a country that

legalizes drugs could look moving forward. And then we obviously also talk about things that are very much in the news right now,

the militarization of the modern police force, police brutality against black Americans, and really the racist roots of the war on drugs

in the first place, and the toll it has taken, which is vast and has been going on for decades, and clearly it is time for a change

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