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Matt D’Elia Is Confused

Katherine Stewart | Christian Nationalism in America

Matt D’Elia Is Confused

Matt D'Elia

Society & Culture

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 July 2020

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Matt’s back for a 4th of July Extravaganza— two episodes, two guests, two stories to tell about America. This episode’s guest is Katherine Stewart, an op-ed writer for the New York Times and the author of a very important new book called ‘The Power Worshippers: Inside The Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism’. Katherine lets Matt in on the insidious agenda of a peculiar subsection of the American Far Right — Christian Nationalists — and their attempts to dissolve the separation of church and state in the United States, the cynicism and hypocrisy they display while going about that dissolution, the various ways they obfuscate their modes of operation for maximum effect, how they have worked their way into the public school system, the reasons they strategically choose which culture war battles to fight and which to leave alone— and how their seemingly unlikely embrace of Presidential candidate Donald Trump actually made, and continues to make, perfect sense.

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0:00.0

Hello again and welcome back again to Mattely is confused for part two of our 4th of July

0:07.1

Extravagansa in which we examine particularly American shit and how it's fucked up and yeah what a what a better way to

0:18.2

celebrate my first guess was Carl Tenenbaum these episodes are in no

0:22.1

particular order so if you have something against

0:24.1

Carl or something against the legalization of drugs you can skip over that

0:29.3

episode and come right to this episode with my second but not secondary guest.

0:36.4

She is spectacular, she is wildly talented and an important voice.

0:40.5

Her name is Catherine Stewart. She's a writer, she writes for the New York Times

0:48.5

from time to time and is the author of a couple books. One is called The Good News Club,

0:54.4

and her recent book is called The Power Worshippers

0:58.4

Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism.

1:02.4

So, Catherine is... rise of religious nationalism.

1:03.6

So Catherine is a, this is something that I've dedicated quite a bit of time to on the

1:10.9

podcast, that I've dedicated a lot of my time in my life to looking

1:14.8

into the sort of religious right how it shapes policy and politics and really sort of grabs

1:20.8

hold of a small minority and really sort of has figured out a way to keep a

1:26.2

stranglehold on so much of the country and the way it thinks and the culture

1:30.2

wars and all that. Catherine is an expert on these matters

1:33.8

and she has a brain, a mind full of

1:39.2

insanely important shit on the subject and I was really excited to be able to talk to her.

1:45.0

She's a great writer, she's very lucid when she talks about this stuff and I truly

1:50.1

think that this stuff is as important as anything right now especially coming up on

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