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That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

Responsible w/ Leven Rambin

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

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Tv & Film

4.57.3K Ratings

🗓️ 10 February 2026

⏱️ 129 minutes

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Summary

This week, Kara and Liza cover the episode,“Responsible” (Season 8, Episode 18), discuss the case of sexual predator and former teacher Debra Lafave, and interview the wonderful Leven Rambin.

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Next week’s episode will be “Let Me Bring Pardon” (Season 26, Episode 16).

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0:00.0

This is exactly right. Of the Law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable. We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the vicious felonies these episodes are based on. These are our stories. Dun-d-dan.

0:40.5

Hello, that's messed up in SVU podcast. I'm Lisa Trager. And I'm Kara Klank. Every week, it's SVU, it's crime, it's chats with celebs, and it's chats about whatever the hell we feel like.

0:48.3

And today, Lisa, you seem like you've got some stuff. I just, this is for everybody. I know it's easy to do. Do not rip the gel nails off of your nails. I am living a nightmare right now. My thumb is so weak. I ripped half of my nail off. It's flesh. It won't stick together. Nail glue's not sticking it. I have, I can't stop. I have an illness. Well, I'm telling you, I'm in the worst pain of my life, ripped half my nail. I know. Holding on by a thread. I know. It didn't stop you. This is my low. This is my low. This is my low. This is my low. I will never rip gel off my hands again. Ever. It's awful. I've heard it here. I know. We have to stop. We all have to stop. But it's like when I'm sitting and it already like a piece of it has gone, I'm like, okay, I'll just like watch TV and kind of. We need to get acetone in the house. We need to get the foils and the chemicals in the home. And do it ourselves. Because I, I am so sad. I don't know how it's going to grow. I don't know how I'm ever going to get my nails done. I don't know what my future holds in terms of my thumbnail. I don't know. Hanging on by a thumbnail. Oh my God. It will grow back. It is so painful. I have been there. I know. I'm like, stop it.

2:00.9

You're ruining your nails.

2:01.7

Stop.

2:02.1

Don't do this. Don't do this. And then it's like, well, you've already done half a hand. You've got to finish. Now then what? You're going to go out with one hand. Them still on. It's just too much. It's just too much. So that's what I came in roaring to talk about. Can I ask a question because I think I easily could have found this on the internet, but I feel

2:20.5

you might know the answer.

2:22.4

What was I looking at with Chapel Rhone on the red carpet?

2:26.8

Like those weren't her nipples, right?

2:30.2

She was wearing a body suit.

2:32.1

So like that is a body suit, but I'm sure there was a body suit on top of her nipple. Okay. But I don't know if her nipples are pierced or not, but then inside she changed outfits and like, I don't know. I didn't love the outfit, but I also didn't care. I just think it was like a try hard moment and then got the attention she obviously knew she would get. And then was like, I didn't even think it was a big deal. And it's like, well, clearly you knew it was like hanging from your nipples. Yeah. But I don't know. I don't know. Because everybody was like, oh my God, imagine if somebody like tripped you or pulled on your outfit and it's like, yeah, but those aren't, like, does everybody know what a female body looks like? Like, those aren't nipples. Like, there's no are Ariola.

3:08.5

Like, my friend was like, I think those are her real nipples.

3:10.6

I was like, there's no pinkness there.

3:12.6

Like, it's, they're white.

3:13.7

It's a body suit.

3:14.2

Yeah, okay.

3:15.5

It was a body suit.

3:16.5

I did not clock the body suit at all.

3:18.4

There was, like, you know? Yeah. It's exciting. The Grammy's always confused me. I like never know the difference between like record. It's not for us. You know, it's not for me to know. Because every time they explain it, they think they make sense.

3:41.1

They don't.

3:59.2

And I took music business for one semester at Columbia College. And I'm telling you, it's impossible to know. They're making it up. It's like truly when people are talking in tongues and you're like, I know that's not really what's happening. That's what's happening over there. No, it's like for writers, production, the vocals, the assembly, the this, the that, whatever.

4:00.1

It's not my business.

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