Let Me Bring Pardon
That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
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🗓️ 17 February 2026
⏱️ 71 minutes
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Summary
Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Let Me Bring Pardon” (Season 26, Episode 16). Plus, they discuss the disgusting crimes perpetrated by Nathan Sutherland at the Hacienda HealthCare facility.
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Vice
NBC News
ABC World News
The Arizona Republic
The Independent
Slate
Wikipedia - Hacienda HealthCare sexual abuse case
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| 0:00.0 | this is exactly right of the law and order franchises SVU is considered especially watchable we are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the vicious felonies these episodes are based on these are our stories dun dun dunn Thank you. Dund. |
| 0:41.4 | Yay, that's messed up in SvU podcast. I'm Lisa Trager. And I'm Kara Clank. Every week, it's SVU recaps, true crime breakdowns, and chats with guests sometimes. And sometimes not. But always there is... |
| 0:48.9 | Well, one of our guests had canceled on us three times. So we would have had a guess. And you can, everyone put your guests, |
| 0:55.0 | guests on Instagram who you think canceled on us three times that we were going to have for the |
| 1:00.9 | episode. So watch the episode, listen to our recap, and then guess who should have been our guest |
| 1:06.8 | but wasn't. Yeah. Because if you're wondering why we had to switch, because you thought that this |
| 1:11.6 | episode was going to be last time, because a couple people have commented, we switched it to accommodate |
| 1:15.5 | someone who then canceled on us for the third time. So that's it. You are now dead to the That's |
| 1:20.5 | messed up podcast and to the Tommy Nation at large. And you better make sure I don't see you in the streets. |
| 1:44.9 | Because I will flip out. Okay, I have to tell you what I saw yesterday. What? I'm walking at Tompkins Square Park enjoying my day. I see a falcon. I can't believe it. I don't really, you know, so I'm looking. It's in the tree. I'm staring at this falcon. I feel lucky. I'm taking photos. I'm with the falcon. |
| 1:50.5 | The falcon flies down to the ground. I go, it's flying. Flies back up holding a rat. The rat's wiggling. The fucking falcon, I saw it hunt. I am the Discovery Channel camera. And then I saw it fly to a |
| 1:57.3 | different tree and get up with its rat and like obviously murder and eat it. But two girls on a bench also saw it. We connected. But I got to see nature. Wow. The circle of life in New York City. Look at it. Yeah. Won't Mother Nature do it. It kind of felt like a Simpsons joke, honestly. Like, wow, beautiful. You know, but kind of incredible. |
| 2:18.9 | Kind of incredible. |
| 2:19.3 | Wow, I can't believe you witnessed a falcon in Manhattan hunting for street rat. |
| 2:25.6 | That's really a quite a morning. |
| 2:28.4 | Oh, also, ended my night at the VU doing a set. |
| 2:32.1 | I walk on stage. |
| 2:33.0 | These guys to the right of me are so fucking hot. |
| 2:35.4 | I can't even. The way they're sitting, they're just like hot as fuck. One has neck tattoos. |
| 2:40.5 | Cops. Fucking cops. I couldn't believe it. Devastating. One said he's narcotics undercover. |
| 2:46.5 | I brought up Jessica Tisch. I mean, we had some fun. They were, I did some joke, I talked about Rikers. I definitely talked about domestic violence. You know, I got my moments in, but they were like so hot. And then one had to wear uniforms and I kind of was like, you're disgusting. Because the other one gets wore plain clothes. Oh, yeah. They were. Okay. I mean, if someone's like, I couldn't even look at them, they were so hot. I'll probably post the clip because I liked him. |
| 3:13.1 | That's fun. |
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