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When it feels like your world is falling apart, it is so difficult to handle things. I mean,

you just get overloaded. How do you respond? That will make the difference in your marriage.

You'll either move ahead or drift apart as challenges come. I'm John Fuller joined by my

focus colleagues, Aaron and Greg Smalley. And Greg, it's really important for couples to show

some grace when there's a crisis. But I think a lot of times, patience runs thin and we kind of,

our fuse gets lit and it just goes bad. It really does because a crisis knocks us off balance.

In a sense. And so now we're both kind of flailing around and it's so easy then to strike out

towards our spouse in those moments. Or it's easy to shut down and totally withdraw.

What I like about the idea of grace is that when we give grace during a crisis,

this really creates safety. When people are safe, their hearts are going to open. So a crisis,

I promise is going to shut hearts down because again, you've been knocked so far out balance.

You're just, you don't feel safe in life. And so you're, you're hard to shut down. But when we

give our spouse grace, it helps them to feel safe. Their hearts are more likely to be open.

And the reality is if we're going to navigate a crisis well, it absolutely requires open hearts.

My encouragement is figure out how do we in the midst of the crisis create safety

and it's really going to help us as we navigate any crisis.

I appreciate that. And we're going to hear now from a couple who have gone through a lot of

health challenges and difficulties. Jeff and Sarah Walton spoke with Jim daily about how they've

walked through some of those times together. And I want to mention this because your book

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