This is Alan Arnold, you're listening to the Ransomed Hart podcast.

This is part two of a two-part series where Dan Allender joins Sam Eldridge and Blaane Eldridge on an and Sons podcast conversation about trauma.

So Blaane and Sam, thanks for being here this week again and just tell us a little bit about

what we're going to listen today as we

re-enter the conversation. So the first part totally blew my mind. In the second half of

the conversation we shifted a little more towards the reality that trauma is not a couple days.

There is a crisis you need to respond to, but then there's going to be a fallout over weeks

and even months.

And so we were able to turn to and go like,

Dan, we've talked about how to get into the conversation.

When do you leave?

There's never a good moment to say,

I'm sorry you just lost your parents, but I got to get out here and he sort of frames how to make that decision, as well as what does it look like to care for a person who is in loss over a period of months?

Last week, Dan, got to kind of talk about when it's go time, when you enter the room,

what are some things you can do? Just go. Don't ask them questions. Be there. Tell them what you think they need.

I loved one in the first one where he said, when people are in trauma, one of the worst things you can do is try to have them make a decision about what they need.

Right. It feels so natural to ask, do you want me to come over there?

Right. But instead, to say, I'm coming over, let them say no let them establish what they need if what you're offering is too much

But air on the side of moving towards them is so like that's huge was so huge for us. So if you guys haven't heard part one I would

deathly recommend starting there. You'd be jumping into the middle of a

conversation with half the puzzle pieces missing. So start there if you

haven't and if you have then we're going to reenter into the conversation now with part two of how to respond to trauma.

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