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Responding to Calvinist Arguments for Limited Atonement

BibleThinker

Mike Winger

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.93K Ratings

🗓️ 25 July 2019

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

In this video I will be handling the following Calvinist objections to the idea that Jesus died for all people. 1) Trinitarian Harmony in the Atonement. This involves the idea that there is conflict between the intention of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit if Jesus meant to die for all people. 2) The idea that if Jesus tried to save all people but didn't then He failed. Therefore Jesus didn't try to save all and didn't die for all people. 3) The idea that Jesus' atonement and intercession are the same in extent and application. 4) Dilemmas Calvinists sometimes present as logically forcing you to affirm limited atonement. In particular we will look at John Owen's dilemma/trilemma 5) The double-payment or double-jeopardy argument. This says that if Jesus died for all then to punish anyone in the future would be to punish sin twice and would threaten God's justice. I'm actually covering more than this but this is the main focus. Here is my original video making a case for unlimited atonement https://youtu.be/DAKyQrAO3ps Here is Dr. White's video in response to my video (most of what I'm reacting to today was found in his response) https://youtu.be/BruZNUk2ltA Here is a playlist of all my videos related to the topic of Calvinism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxakEl8BYBE&list=PLZ3iRMLYFlHu8PlY0J-G2B9Pyp59S0pLZ Finally, this is an in house discussion and I affirm Calvinists as my beloved brothers and sisters and would welcome them in full fellowship (and so should you). If you love this ministry and want to partner in supporting it please click below to go to my web site. https://biblethinker.org/index.php/donate BibleThinker mugs are available here https://www.zockollpottery.com/product-page/bible-thinker-mug

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0:00.0

I'm Pastor Mike Winger and this is Bible Thinker the program dedicated to thinking

0:05.9

biblically about everything. All right today we're doing some inside baseball, if you know the term, Christians debating amongst

0:17.2

themselves about some of the doctrines about salvation, so terraology we call it. This is kind of a next-level discussion about

0:24.8

Calvinism, but before I do anything else, I recorded a quick intro that I would like

0:29.7

to share with you today just for today show. Here you go in honor of James White.

0:54.0

So this is actually a response to, well sort of a response to Dr White's video

0:59.8

where he responded to me.

1:01.3

He critiqued my video on limited atonement

1:03.4

but I don't just want to do like a response to response because I feel like

1:06.9

we just get so far away from the actual subject matter

1:09.7

that it stops helping people and the whole goal here is to help people and

1:13.0

assist people and add something fruitful to the conversation. So let me say

1:16.5

I'm taking advantage of his video as an opportunity to respond to what are

1:21.2

actually some common Calvinist objections that frequently

1:25.0

non-Calvinists have never heard and certainly haven't responded to.

1:29.0

So I'm going to try to offer some thoughtful responses to these Calvinist objections.

1:32.0

I've put a

1:32.9

an actual list of the things I'll respond to in the description in the

1:36.4

video description and you guys can check those out. I don't know if I'll have time for

1:39.7

the Q&A today. I'll announce later if I'll be taking questions and when I announce it, then I'll take

1:44.8

questions. Until then, don't worry about adding your questions into the chat because there's a good

1:49.2

chance we won't have time for that because there's a ton of stuff we're covering today. So this is not just a response, it's a chance to address some Calvinist objections to the idea that Jesus died for everyone.

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