I sat down with documentary filmmaker, former U.S. ambassador to the Bahamas and philanthropist

Nicole Avond to discuss the importance of showing respect. This is a bit of optimism.

It really is such a pleasure to meet you. I've heard so many wonderful things about you

from some of our mutual friends. I know, I've heard the same, and it's about time that

we've met. I know, I know, and I think it's funny that we're meeting for the first time

like this, like on a podcast. On a podcast, of course.

Very Oak Huron. I won most popular in the eighth grade for a reason.

Is that a good idea to tell kids what they're the most of when they're young? Like, is that

it from now on from the eighth grade? That's your identity. You're the most talkative kid.

I know. It's not very good. It's funny. My dad was not happy. He said, oh, that means

you're talking too much in class. That means you're doing this. And he took it very in

negative. And my teacher said, no, we gave it to her because she can converse with anyone.

She converses with the athlete. She converses with the nerd. She talks to the science nerd.

So in that way, I thought, oh, I like that. I'll take that.

So technically, most conversant. Yes. And it actually gave me, when my teacher said

that, it gave me a sense of, oh, right, I can't talk to anybody, which then gave me a responsibility

of trying to find the common good in people. So it actually turned out to be a good thing.

You know, I was very similar. I wasn't sort of in a click. I was friends. I guess if you

really had to force me into one, I was probably in the nerds, but I was friends with everybody.

I mean, I'd friends in the theater crowd and I'd friends who were jobs. And that sort of

ability to go between tribes has served me for my entire life.

Me too. And that's a really beautiful way to put it, which is because we are tribal as humans.

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