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This is an interview I did with the executive director of IMCW, Tricia Stottler.

We are so honored to be talking with IMCW's Founding Teacher and beloved friend, Tarbrock,

when the opportunity to talk with you today came around.

Of course, it was like, well, we have so many questions.

How are we going to possibly narrow it down to, you know, in our in 15 minutes?

And so we've been kind of looking at some of the themes that are coming up in some of our classes, you know,

kind of taking the temperature out there in the world.

What's really alive for people right now that we might want to address?

And I just came off teaching the IMCW New Year's retreat, which was really wonderful.

And I also just taught this morning before this.

So, you know, I let my students this morning know that we were going to be together.

I'm like, oh, ask her this, ask her that.

So trying to distill and what really there are themes, actually, there's kind of a common denominator to a lot of what folks are wanting to know and get your take on.

I feel like my distillation comes down to how we're in this like the shock has worn off in terms of the COVID disruptions and the upheaval in the world in our country.

I guess worn off isn't really the right word, but we've acclimated a little bit internally.

And yet we're really tired and it hasn't come back together again.

Right? So we've this dissolution has taken place.

We've been in the stew for a while, but like no ground has come back underneath our feet.

So it's the sense of groundlessness and uncertainty, which of course is the whole of what we practice with.

And why we sit on this cushion regularly, so that we can cultivate this heart and mind that can handle what comes our way, but gosh, when the rubber hits the road.

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