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Reshaping War For The 21st Century / Shana Marshall

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4.9937 Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2026

⏱️ 95 minutes

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Summary

Shana Marshall joins This Is Hell! to talk about her new piece for Security In Context titled “A Violent Convergence: How Silicon Valley and Private Finance Are Reshaping War”. Shana Marshall is Associate Director of the Institute for Middle East Studies and Assistant Research Faculty member at the George Washington University’s Elliott School of International Affairs. Her work has been published by The Middle East Report, The International Journal of Middle East Studies, Middle East Policy, Jadaliyya, the Carnegie Middle East Center, and various edited volumes. We will have new installments of Rotten History and Hangover Cure. We will also be sharing your answers to this week's Question from Hell! from Patreon. Help keep This Is Hell! completely listener supported and access bonus episodes by subscribing to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/thisishell https://www.securityincontext.org/team/shana-marshall

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0:00.0

Bigger on set

0:02.0

Wagoner

0:03.0

Fing

0:04.0

and I'm

0:05.0

Posit

0:08.0

Bigger This is hell.

0:33.1

Live from the United States, where capitalism is the virus, this is hell, which is one tagline among dozens that we use on this show.

0:49.0

But considering the topic of today's conversation, maybe a more appropriate or more accurate opening would be live from

0:55.9

planet Earth, where the military industrial complex is the virus. This is hell. If and when you do

1:02.8

think about the military industrial complex, you might first think of President Dwight D. Eisenhower's

1:08.0

farewell address on January 17, 1961, when Ike warned the country, this conjunction of an immense military establishment in a large arms industry is new in the American experience, yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications.

1:25.8

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition

1:29.6

of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought by the military industrial complex. The potential

1:35.6

for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. And wow, has the world experienced

1:43.5

the disastrous rise of misplaced power lately.

1:46.0

However, you might also think that because U.S. President Eisenhower's warning was for the people of the U.S.,

1:54.0

that the military industrial complex is also bound to the limits of a single nation.

1:59.0

Granted, the leading military superpower, but still one country, the United States of America.

2:05.4

Unfortunately, that is not the case.

2:07.4

Militarization has gone global, the same way it went nationwide here in the States.

2:11.9

And that is, by the arms industry guaranteeing political influence through the placement of defense contractors

2:18.9

or subcontractors or military installations in every congressional district and now globally

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