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Backcountry Hunters & Anglers Podcast & Blast with Hal Herring

Research Ecologist and Wildfire Expert Dr. Paul Hessburg

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers Podcast & Blast with Hal Herring

Zack Williams

Outdoors, Wilderness, Sports, Fishing, Outdoor, Hunting, Sports & Recreation

4.6853 Ratings

🗓️ 19 January 2021

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

Prominent research ecologist Dr. Paul Hessburg began his career decades ago as a U.S. Forest Service entomologist, studying the insects that kill trees on the grandest scale. Over the years, Hessburg broadened his scope, delving deeper into the greatest force for ecological change on Earth: fire and the age we live now in, the Age of Megafire, or the Pyrocene. Listen to this fascinating deep dive into how we got here and where we must go – if we hope to survive.

To get the absolute most out of this conversation, revisit BHA Podcast & Blast Episode 66, our interview with fire historian Dr. Stephen J. Pyne, who coined the term “the Pyrocene.”

Transcript

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A way to think about it is fires coming inevitably to a landscape near you.

0:09.4

How do you want it to come?

0:11.3

Do you want it knead it out in clever doses or do you want it belching in unbridled hot fires that lay in smoke for a month?

0:19.9

So to me it's showing the value of that patchwork, connecting it to habitats, showing

0:26.6

the relationship of good fire to that landscape, how good fire creates those patterns and

0:31.7

maintains them, and then how can we invite good fire.

0:36.6

If you stop and think about it, there's parts to the climate story that are difficult to change,

0:42.1

but there are other parts where it's vulnerable to

0:44.4

change and so that story unpacking that is an important thing. It's not an

0:50.0

ecosystem service for people it's a human service to the ecosystem. A multi-generational

0:55.9

cross-cultural way of thinking about how we're doing good work for generations. Hey everybody, as people probably know by now, we are in a great partnership with the

1:09.2

Filson Company.

1:10.0

They help support the podcast and they support BHA and conservation all across America.

1:16.4

Our friends over at Filson have made the absolute best clothing and gear for backcountry working and hunting and fishing now since 1897. A new collection of

1:25.6

Filsen products that support BHA is available on Filsen.com right now. It's worth

1:32.1

going over there and checking it out. They have a vest that I'm particularly interested in. I just

1:38.4

I roused it an old down vest out of a closet recently and was amazed at how effective it is to keep your

1:45.9

torso warm while letting your arms and legs run around and do their thing.

1:50.7

So just hitting the Filsen site is a new denim collection they've got.

1:55.0

They've got over a hundred years of manufacturing experience for denim alone.

2:00.0

It should be great stuff.

2:02.0

While you're there, don't miss the new wax cotton waterfowl wading jacket, which comes in a mausio

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