And there was one more break or make hearing today. That was for Health and Human Services nominee Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

He went before a second committee after a first round of questioning yesterday. And for the first time, we heard Republican publicly express doubts about him.

Our Lisa Desjardin was there. She joins us now. So Lisa, what were the major differences between the second hearing and the first one?

This was a much sharper hearing and potentially more impactful as well, Jeff. This was the Senate's health committee. And it is chaired by a potential swing vote. Senator Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, who also happens to be a trained physician.

Now, he right at the top of the hearing, said something we hadn't heard

yesterday, which was he said he has real concerns, as a Republican, of past misleading and

unfounded statements, he said, by Kennedy about vaccines. And then he asked a direct question

to Kennedy. Will you reassure mothers unequivocally and without qualification that the measles and hepatitis

B vaccines do not cause autism?

Senator, I am not going into the agency with any.

That's kind of a yes or no question.

Because the data is there. And that's kind of a yes or no. And I don't

mean to cut you off, but that really is a yes or no. If the data is there, I will absolutely do that.

Now, this is what Kennedy says, is that he's open to arguments. But Democrats and Cassidy said,

it's not a question of if the data is there. In fact,

we know the data is there, at least what the data says so far. There's a 2022 study looking at

19 different studies that shows there's no link that's known scientifically between autism

and vaccines. There's also studies looking at kids who were not vaccinated and saying no

difference significance in how they were diagnosed with autism.

Now, there's something else notable in this hearing to Jeff.

Three Republican senators who were in this hearing, you see them right there, backed up Kennedy's refusal to deny that link between autism and vaccines.

They said, why not be open to it? One of them

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