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The date, Kaitetti, Nelson on Tewa Punamu with the South Island of New Zealand.

Morale, low.

I remember recording the episode you're about to hear so specifically it blows me away.

I can visualize the room I was lying in, I know the friends I was on holiday with, it was, I don't know if it was the last kind of large

scale folly of Youth New Year's, but it's cemented as a certain place and time in my life.

Look, it's an interesting inflection point for the podcast. I remember peeling myself away from everyone to do this episode.

And I suppose at this point we kind of knew we'd made something.

Because I think we would have just put it off if not for that.

To do it on the 1st of January, to this day to me still.

Really funny, good decision-making.

You know?

And this book, I also remember, I weirdly also remember talking about how I was reading Jonathan

Franzan in this episode and it's crazy because I probably I think I've read a few of

his books in the I guess 10 years between but only now I'm reading another one

The Corrections so it's you know might be nothing but it's funny how the world serves these things up, you know.

This is, you know, this is, you know, this is, I don't know what, this is a fine episode.

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