Replay: Intersex and Trans
TransLash Podcast with Imara Jones
TransLash Media
4.3 • 619 Ratings
🗓️ 11 August 2022
⏱️ 32 minutes
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Summary
In this episode replay from 2021, host Imara Jones sits down with the groundbreaking intersex activist Sean Saifa Wall. Saifa, who is Black, intersex and trans discusses how those who are intersex shift our fundamental understanding of gender and the promise that this community holds for all of us. Saifa also delves into the importance of realizing the intersectionality of those who are trans and intersex. He also calls for the trans community to learn more about what it means to be intersex both to better support intersex people and to grow personally in their own trans identity.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey there, I'm Amara Jones. |
| 0:11.0 | Welcome to the TransLash podcast, a show where we tell trans stories to save trans lives. |
| 0:16.3 | Well, I am back from a vacation that I just took, one that I needed after a really intense and brutal year. |
| 0:25.6 | I know that so many of you are getting ready to do the same, and so are many people who are on the trans-slash team. |
| 0:34.8 | They needed to. |
| 0:36.4 | So we decided to take this month to present to you |
| 0:39.2 | podcasts, which you may have missed over the past year or so, some of our favorites, which we |
| 0:45.2 | believe you should definitely have heard. We had a whole conversation and these are the ones |
| 0:51.7 | that we came up with. Today we are thrilled to present to you the conversation with Sean Seifow Wall, |
| 0:59.8 | a tireless trans activist in the fight for intersex liberation. |
| 1:05.1 | Human beings are like flowers, and there's so much variation. |
| 1:08.7 | The problem is, as physicians who see this feel that intersex should exist in these two |
| 1:15.9 | boxes, either male or female. |
| 1:18.0 | This, for me, was one of the most poignant, and eye-opening conversations that I had where |
| 1:23.8 | I learned about the way in which how we approach gender can be downright oppressive |
| 1:30.7 | in the most excruciating and personal terms. |
| 1:34.4 | It feels like sometimes that the way that we approach intersex issues in this country |
| 1:39.1 | can be tyranny, whether or not it's medical tyranny or sociological tyranny or even tyranny with |
| 1:47.3 | regards to psychology and psychotherapy. And we'll hear all of that in Sean Seifowal's story, |
| 1:54.2 | but there's also a tremendous amount of hope. So make sure that you hang in there through the |
| 1:59.6 | difficult moments to hear what they have to say. |
| 2:02.9 | Now, just so that we're on the same page, intersex refers to those whose bodies, whether in terms of genitalia, hormones, chromosomes, or internal anatomy, don't conform to traditional medical notions of male and female. |
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