That's the reality of any tree planting endeavor. When you see people cutting down pine trees and then going to replant new ones and a new site, right?

They're planting probably three to four times a number of trees that they plant on harvesting in the end because some of them will simply not take root for one reason or another.

Exactly. Exactly. And then mangroves are tricky because you do have issues with the tides, and that's a function of river level. You want the tide water to go far enough inland. If in the dry season and during a neap tide, you know, the tides don't reach that far from the banks of the river. So hydrology is an issue and you have to get kind of

creative about channeling and et cetera, et cetera. So yeah, mangroves are tricky, but they're

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brighter future for all people. Wow. With that, Hank Deirden, welcome to the show.

Thank you very, very much for having me. It's great to be a guest once again. Yeah, I know when we

last connected on this podcast, I think you were approaching the one million mark.

And so that's where I kind of stumbled in your intro, but you shared with me just before we started

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