Hi, I'm Jonathan Cape Heart, and welcome to Cape Up.

The impeachment trial of President Donald Trump gets underway,

a trial and process he has called fake, a hoax, and a witch hunt.

The Congressman Eric Swallwellwell of California says the President is absolutely incorrect.

As a member of both the House Judiciary and House Intelligence Committees,

Swalwell has been smack in the middle of the third impeachment of a president of the

United States.

Listen to him break it all down right now.

Congressman Swallwell, thank you very much for being on the podcast.

Of course, thanks for having me on.

So the trial in the Senate begins.

The president has already gone on record as calling it fake, a sham, we're all used the word of him calling the whole

impeachment process a witch hunt you were in were in the unique spot of being both on judiciary and intelligence.

Has this whole thing been a witch hunt, a hoax, a sham,

fake?

Anything but that. And actually what's so remarkable is that with so few witnesses and so few documents, we were able

to prove so much.

And I told Dan Goldman, our lead investigator who'd worked for the

Southern District of New York on so many high-profile cases. I said Dan you

probably never in your life have had a case of such great magnitude with so little to work with

because the president wouldn't give us any witnesses, wouldn't give us any

documents, but what is revealing is that every time we get a new document, not from the president, usually

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