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Capehart

Jonathan Metzl on how white identity permeates policymaking outside of Washington

Capehart

The Washington Post

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.61.4K Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2020

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Jonathan Metzl talks about his book "Dying of Whiteness," and the racial politics of taxes, healthcare and guns in America.

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Hi, I'm Jonathan Kapart, and welcome to Cape Up.

0:06.0

Health care in Tennessee, guns in Missouri, tax cuts in Kansas.

0:12.0

Professor Jonathan Metzel at Vanderbilt University focuses on those three areas in his book,

0:17.8

Dying of Whiteness, how the politics of racial resentment is killing America's heartland.

0:23.2

Using compelling data and focus groups, Metzal shows how white people are willing to die

0:28.8

rather than be connected to or finance policies they believe are giving resources to people they view as undeserving.

0:37.0

Find out more about this important book right now.

0:41.0

Jonathan Metzel, thank you very much for being now.

0:43.0

Jonathan Metzel, thank you very much for being on the podcast.

0:46.0

It's great to be here.

0:47.0

Okay, I've been raving about your book for months now,

0:52.0

and it is really an important book. The name of the book is

0:55.5

dying of whiteness how the politics of racial resentment is killing America's

0:59.7

heartland and you start off the book by telling the story of Trevor. Talk about Trevor.

1:07.0

Sure. Well, basically the impetus for the book came from a series of focus groups that some colleagues of mine and I were doing in

1:14.8

kind of rural Tennessee where we were talking to medically ill poor white and

1:21.0

black Americans about the Affordable Care Act and we just found you know some very

1:25.2

dramatic stories which I recount in the book but I think probably one of the most powerful stories

1:29.8

was one of a man named Trevor who I called Trevor in the book who was suffering from liver

1:35.8

failure and a bunch of other chronic conditions and he really would have benefited from this was

1:40.9

in the year 2011 at the time what the Affordable Care Act potentially was offering,

1:45.8

which was increased access to physicians, financial help because he was facing medical bankruptcy.

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