Our top 25 countdown continues, coming in at number 16, Zena Zamora, who works as the executive

director of the Frontera Fund, an abortion fund that gets patients the resources they need

to access care. We recorded this episode in September of 2021, months before the Supreme Court

overturned Roe v. Wade. And so it's pretty wild to listen back to this episode and hear how much Zana was able to predict and prepare for.

A lot of us aren't in Texas right now.

We're not looking at this through the lens of someone who is there.

Where are you, Zana? Where in Texas are you?

I'm located in the Rio Grande Valley,

so deep south Texas along the U.S.-Mexico border. What are you hearing from people in Texas?

There's a lot of confusion around the law and just people being upset. I think a lot of people

think that this law just went way too far. The biggest concern for

most of the people who do abortion funding work is how are we going to help people get their

abortion care? In your own words, what does this legislation do? So SB8, what it does is it bans abortion past six weeks in Texas. It is essentially

a complete abortion ban because by the time most people know that they're pregnant, they're

unable to get an abortion in Texas. This also has a very cruel and specific civil litigation

or civil cause of action that allows anybody to

sue anybody else who helps quote unquote aid and abet someone in getting abortion care in

Texas past six weeks. It is such a vague law that we don't really know what it means to aid in a

bet. It can be anything from like giving

somebody money to get their abortion, taking them to their abortion appointment, like literally

driving them to their appointment, a parent being there for their child while they get their

care, a spiritual leader, giving counseling around abortion,

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