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REMINDING THAT RED CHINA IS RECKLESS AND SADISTIC: 1/8: Red Memory: The Afterlives of China's Cultural Revolution by Tania Branigan (Author)

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John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 7 April 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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REMINDING THAT RED CHINA IS RECKLESS AND SADISTIC:   1/8: Red Memory: The Afterlives of China's Cultural Revolution  by  Tania Branigan  (Author)

https://www.amazon.com/Red-Memory-Afterlives-Cultural-Revolution/dp/1324051957

Red Memory uncovers forty years of silence through the stories of individuals who lived through the madness. Deftly exploring how this era defined a generation and continues to impact China today, Branigan asks: What happens to a society when you can no longer trust those closest to you? What happens to the present when the past is buried, exploited, or redrawn? And how do you live with yourself when the worst is over?
1965 PRC LIU MAO

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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World with John Batchelor.

0:09.9

Here's John Bachelor.

0:12.4

The Red Guards, the Cultural Revolution, 20th century nightmares, and yet read memory,

0:20.5

the new book, The After Lives of China's Cultural Revolution

0:23.7

by Tanya Bronigan, takes us back to that time of the People's Republic of China, and then

0:31.7

brings us forward again. We begin with an event, however, that is Tanya's reporting as a representative of the Guardian newspaper,

0:40.6

and it is the Hush and Tao era.

0:43.5

This is the first decade of the 21st century.

0:47.5

And we visit the Pagoda Museum.

0:50.4

What is significant about this is that there's a museum that appears to be remembering

0:57.7

the Red Guards, remembering the cultural revolution. And yet, Tanya, congratulations, and a very

1:04.1

good evening to you. Your book is a delight only because all of this is new to me. At the same time, I remember what I was doing

1:13.1

in 1960, 1979, with no knowledge of these terrible events. You go to a museum, and the museum

1:24.9

is the product of one man's genius, Peng Chian.

1:29.1

What is the museum represent?

1:31.0

What was it meant to represent as you visited?

1:34.3

Good evening to you.

1:36.1

Good evening.

1:36.8

And thank you for having me on your show.

1:39.6

The museum in Shanto is really the only place in China that records the history of the

1:47.1

cultural revolution. And this, of course, was a decade that really tore China apart. We saw

1:52.4

extraordinary violence, chaos, then a long period of stagnation in which China was really

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