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of journalism. Hello, I'm Matt Kelly. And I'm Matt Dancona. And this is the two mats for the week

ending Friday the 9th of August. What did we, we taught, we had a sort of slightly left field

conversation this week, didn't we? We stepped back in time. We did. We time travelled like Doctor Who's.

Doctor Who in a very real sense. All the way back to 2012. Back to 2012, the before times.

Yeah, before things turned to shit. Before things went a bit askew. And we had a, we had a reflective

conversation about that high point in, well, it felt like a high point in British recent history

to us 2012 Olympic opening ceremony in London.

It was the calm before the storms. It turned out. We sort of worked our way securitously

through to how that should. Yeah, how can we get that back and how the government policies

on housing and building and how they can all

tie in so after a brief um howl of sadness we've moved into deep joy yeah and then good model

an optimism exactly yeah yeah okay so brace yourself with some unguarnished optimism this is the two mats

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