Relationship Expert: Fighting Isn't What Destroys Love! It's What You Do After
Wellness + Wisdom Podcast
Josh Trent
4.8 • 913 Ratings
🗓️ 10 March 2026
⏱️ 86 minutes
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Summary
What if conflict is not what destroys your relationship, but the inability to repair after the conflict?
Josh Trent welcomes Jayson Gaddis to the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast, episode 805, to reveal why conflict is an unavoidable part of love, how childhood conditioning shapes the way we fight and repair, why intimacy requires both closeness and separation, how anxious and avoidant attachment create relationship gridlock, and why learning the art of repair is the real skill that keeps relationships connected, honest, and alive.
In This Episode, Jayson Gaddis Uncovers:
- (01:20) Conflict Is Part of Relationships
- (05:20) It Starts With Your Parents
- (09:15) Your Suffering Guides You to Your Purpose
- (15:05) The Spirituality of Relationships
- (19:45) Ancestral Healing
- (26:40) The Duality of Relationships
- (30:10) The Teacher Is The Student
- (34:10) Why The Ego Seeks Safety
- (41:40) The Consequences of Disconnection and Closed Heart
- (46:40) Learn How to Repair
- (53:05) Are Your Expectations Reasonable?
- (01:00:20) Your Pain Is Being Used for Profit
- (01:07:50) The Distortions
- (01:13:45) Anxious and Avoidant Attachment Dynamic
- (01:19:50) How to Create Lightness
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | We all have conflict. |
| 0:01.0 | Yeah. |
| 0:02.0 | It's just we're not educated about how to dance with it. |
| 0:04.0 | People just get really scared, whether it's the blame, the defensiveness, the voice raising, |
| 0:09.0 | the yelling, the shutting down and getting completely silent for days on end. |
| 0:13.0 | They're so ashamed. |
| 0:15.0 | Because they don't focus on repair, they keep getting lost in trying to behave differently during conflict. And they never learn repair. |
| 0:22.6 | Repair is the antidote to everything. |
| 0:27.6 | Over the past 20 plus years, Jason Gaddis has trained hundreds of coaches worldwide, |
| 0:32.6 | helping transform their relationships and is the author of Getting to Zero. |
| 0:36.6 | I had finished my seventh failed relationship at age 29. helping transform their relationships and is the author of Getting to Zero. |
| 0:37.5 | I had finished my seventh failed relationship at age 29. |
| 0:41.3 | I was breaking up with another good woman in the Whole Foods parking lot. |
| 0:45.3 | I was just scared to let her in. |
| 0:46.3 | Making her wrong for having needs, for having emotions, for wanting to talk about our relationship. |
| 0:51.3 | My system couldn't handle it. |
| 0:52.3 | I just, it was too uncomfortable. That's what disconnected people do. When you're connected, it's more work. |
| 0:58.0 | People just cannot listen when they're triggered. It's just wired in our DNA. As social mammals, |
| 1:03.5 | one of the worst things that can happen to us is to be outcast, to be abandoned. And that's what's |
| 1:08.9 | at stake. And if you can learn how to repair, you've got the keys to reconnecting every single time, |
| 1:14.4 | especially if you've got a willing partner. |
| 1:15.7 | So here's how you to do that. |
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