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Wellness + Wisdom Podcast

Relationship Death/Rebirth: How to Let Love Lead Again + Let Go of The Anxious-Avoidant Dance (Margo Running + Carrie Michelle)

Wellness + Wisdom Podcast

Josh Trent

Education, Self-improvement

4.8913 Ratings

🗓️ 12 December 2023

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Summary

Wellness + Wisdom | Episode 595

Can relationship death be the beginning of true love?

Margo Running, Holistic and Spiritual Healer, accompanies Josh Trent and his partner, Carrie Michelle, on the Wellness + Wisdom podcast, episode 595, where together they unravel how their relationship had to die to be recreated anew without projecting their trauma onto each other, why they decided to stay together, and how Margo helped guide them through this process.

"When I saw you both loving each other so much, and yet this confusion of what that needs to look like. We're hereditary and generational trauma gets passed on. I saw all of our ancestors looking at this moment going "We didn't know how to make it good. Can you?" And we're like, yes, we are actually changing this understanding of love." - Margo Running

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🎧 In This Episode, Margo Running + Carrie Michelle Uncover:[

  • (01:30) Relationship Death + Rebirth
  • (08:00) The Anxious-Avoidant Dance
  • (13:45) Choosing to Be Together
  • (18:45) What Is Love?
  • (25:00) The Ceremony of Life
  • (30:45) Love Doesn‘t Keep a Score
  • (34:45) Compassionate Inquiry
  • (41:45) Old Wounds Resurface in Relationships
  • (48:45) From Children to Parents
  • (57:00) Getting Past the Conflicts
  • (01:05:00) Softening the Heart
  • (01:12:15) Projecting The Parental Wounds
  • (01:23:15) The Truth of Plant Medicine
  • (01:32:05) Finding a Way Back to Love

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Transcript

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0:00.0

I thought he's going to come home and say, I'm done, I can't do it anymore.

0:03.5

And I actually was going to be like, nope, sorry. You're going to figure it out with me. There's no way we could have gone on. So I actually was done. I was complete with the relationship. You were complete with the relationship, too. My soul wanted to be with you. And I could see what that was like. I know there's like a big love between us. Like I can feel

0:21.6

our soul resonant so deeply. And then here we are on this earthly plain ego personality,

0:27.7

just putting us at war all the time. I saw you both loving each other so much. And yet this

0:35.0

confusion of what that needs to look like because we're hereditary generational

0:39.8

trauma gets passed on and I also see all of our ancestors looking at this moment going we didn't

0:46.9

know how to make it good can you and we're like yes we are actually changing this understanding

0:53.5

of love I have to let go of everything that is triggering me and everything that I think is wrong and everything that I'm blaming you and shaming you're judging you about and just be like, okay, like, what can I really learn from this?

1:07.5

You're not my dad. You're not my mom.

1:09.4

But on some visceral level, like that shit

1:11.1

lives in us, you know, like in ourselves. And we unconsciously push it onto the, onto the person

1:17.2

that we love. And it's just so sad that we, that we do that. And it's so fucking liberating

1:23.4

to have that awareness.

1:39.1

Yeah. to have that awareness. Welcome to the podcast.

1:40.4

This is Josh Trent.

1:41.5

This is wellness and wisdom.

1:42.8

It's the place where we explore these five

1:44.5

sides of the wellness pentagon, our physical, emotional, mental, spiritual, and financial self. Look,

1:49.6

we signed up to be a human being. Part of being a human being is that we agreed to nourish these

1:54.7

five sides of the house we live in. This is the Pentagon on the screen that you all know,

1:59.9

the more you nourish it, the better your life

2:01.9

gets. But how do we do this? How do we know ourselves enough so that we can love ourselves

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