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This is The Nocturnous Conversations. I'm Emily Silverman.

Today I'm joined by Michael Grassy, showrunner and screenwriter, and Daniela Lamas,

ICU, physician, and writer. Michael began his career writing teen dramas like DeGrassey and Riverdale,

but found unexpected inspiration in the writing of Oliver Sacks, which led him to create

brilliant minds, a new NBC medical drama. Danielle, who cares for critically ill patients at

Brigham and Women's Hospital, has also built a parallel career in television writing, bringing authenticity and nuance to projects like Brilliant Minds.

In my conversation with Michael and Daniela, we talk about how Oliver Sacks' cases inspired brilliant minds and shaped its distinctive focus on adaptation

to disease rather than cure of disease, how the show portrays patients learning to live with

conditions like colorblindness or locked in syndrome, and the power of storytelling to reframe

how we think about neurological illness.

Before we dive in, take a listen to the pilot for Season 2 of Brilliant Minds,

which premieres on September 22nd on NBC and streams the next day on Peacock.

The Human Brain The human brain.

It can still leave us completely mystified.

Do you see something?

Hidden cameras are all over the place.

She's experiencing Truman Show syndrome.

The patient has no control over his own arm.

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