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Cato Podcast

Regulatory Power vs. the Right to a Jury Trial

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Immigration, News, News Commentary, Peace, 424708, Markets, Government, Libertarian, Policy, Politics, Cato, Defense

4.5979 Ratings

🗓️ 10 May 2023

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

When can a federal regulatory agency nix your right to a jury trial and instead subject you to their own internal court? That's a question now moving through the courts. Cato's Tommy Berry describes the case of Burgess v. Whang.

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0:00.0

This is the Kainter Daily Podcast for Wednesday, May 10th,

0:05.8

2023.

0:07.2

I'm Caleb Brown.

0:08.2

To what extent can a regulatory agency deny you the right to take the claims they're making against you to a real

0:15.8

court also known as an Article 3 court. Cato's Tommy Berry comments on a case that

0:21.0

holds implications for your seventh amendment right to a jury trial.

0:25.6

Who is Cornelius, Campbell Burgess?

0:30.1

Well I don't know a ton of details about him, but most relevant to our discussion, he was fined $200,000 by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, which is a federal agency that examines various

0:46.5

dealings in the banking industry, things of that nature after some dealings went south there was controversy over whether he

0:55.3

had potentially violated some federal regulations and the agency also

0:59.4

barred him from continuing in his job in his current position. But most

1:05.3

controversially, the agency did this not through a jury trial in federal district

1:10.2

court with a jury of his peers, but instead in an administrative

1:13.9

proceeding within the very agency an administrative law judge who

1:19.2

essentially had the authority unilaterally to both decide the facts and the law as to whether Mr. Burgess had violated these regulations.

1:29.4

And then although Mr. Burgess had the right to appeal that to a federal court of appeals,

1:34.0

those factual determinations were essentially binding on the court of appeals unless they found

1:39.1

clear error.

1:40.5

So did they keep him out of court?

1:43.0

Yes, they kept him out.

1:45.0

He did not have the option to go to federal district court

1:48.0

and go through the normal process of having a Article III judge

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