Flexibility, low stakes, no rush, then you're in great shapes, curiosity, then you get to have

your stories because then you can play with them, right? Like, oh, I never knew that about that

person. That's fascinating, right? It can just like, you know what? The other part of it is,

it's the smart brain. It will learn. It will take in new information. It's reflective. It's all good.

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So often when we talk about understanding ourselves, we talk about it through understanding

the spectrum and our internal working model. So today let's simplify it. What do you think?

Well, it's simplified, but it's also going deeper into it. I would even almost call it going deeper.

So the spectrum, we start getting interested in colors and up and down and is it dorsal

vagal or ventral vagal or whatever. And I think your idea of let's deep dive into the basics of

this. I love the way you talk about it because it feels so usable. So recognizing what internal

working model that we function in is really, really important. But every day our body is responding

to our environment and responding to itself. Well, what do you mean in responding to itself?

Well, you know how we're always talking about story follow state. Sometimes in fact, we might

even just start there. People always, what do you mean? Story follow state. So what does that mean?

So that's the part where our body responds so much faster than our mind. You know, we say this

all the time in our podcast, but we give way too much credit to that frontal lobe of ours and the

story that we're telling, meaning, let's say an example is we're having this crappy time at work

and we're so stressed. And all we can think about is how sucky the people that we work with or

the job we have. And that's causing us to feel anxious and bad. And so our story is people at work

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