So we almost think that this is going to take a lot of time, but in the long run,

you'll find yourself having to teach less and less because they're learning those skills,

they're internalizing them. So it can feel counterintuitive of, well, man, setting up a brain

break kit or teaching my child about problem solving, it is a task, it is something to do,

but not only is it going to make them more successful and thrive, it's going to help make our

lives easier. And I think that's motivating for adults. Welcome to Therapist Uncensored,

building on decades of professional experience, this podcast tackles neurobiology,

modern attachment, and more in an honest, easily digestible way. Today's session begins right now

with Dr. Anne Kelly in Sumeriat.

Hey, parents and teachers out there. You've really been on our mind and heart and we wanted to

basically dip back in and do another episode focusing on supporting you with the massive

and often thinkless job you do every single day. It's very difficult to be stable and grounded

and secure and mindful and all the things that we're supposed to be when the world itself is shaky.

So think of today's episode as an oxygen mask for you because we all know that when we are

resourced, we're going to be much less likely to skid into some of the not-pretty shame practices

that are going to not help the kids, not help us manage the kids, not help anybody.

Anne Kelly talks today with practitioner Lindsay Keely and they explore both empathy and

accountability so that you can feel both connected but also in charge and both of those things

are what kids need. This helps us out too though by being in charge so that we don't get overwhelmed

and then we're more available to help kids be able to deal with some of the big feelings

that they're having as well. Lindsay Keely is a university professor at Oregon State and she

created a program called POS-Sensitive Choices for Socioeumotional Learning which incorporates

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