A Dose of Hope: Psychedelic-Assisted Therapy for PTSD And Other Conditions With Dr. Dan Engle (167)

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Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD

Social Sciences, Society & Culture, Science, Education, Self-improvement, Relationships

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🗓️ 18 January 2022

⏱️ 70 minutes

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The use of psychedelics is slowly gaining favor as part of a holistic approach and is radically changing the way we think about therapy and psychiatric medicine. In this episode, Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP discusses the therapeutic use of psychedelics with Dr. Dan Engle, the Founder and Medical Director of Kuya Institute for Transformational Medicine in Austin, Texas. Psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy (PAP) refers to professionally supervised use of ketamine, MDMA, psilocybin, LSD and ibogaine as part of a carefully elaborated psychotherapeutic process. Clinical results so far have shown safety and efficacy, even for “treatment resistant” conditions, and far superior effects than traditional therapies alone, or traditional medicines such as antidepressants. In addition, the treatment is short-term and typically has little side effects or risk with careful and adequate screening. This treatment isn't new, actually, the use of plants to achieve non-ordinary states of mind for wellbeing is ancient. But there has been a renaissance in exploring non-ordinary states as route to healing and the PAP model opens up interesting questions regarding diagnostics and explanation of psychological distress. It may serve to advance novel explanations for mental disorders and their treatment, in a way that considers social and cultural factors, historical adversities, and acute trauma. Find more www.therapistuncensored.com/episodes

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0:00.0	Yeah. You can think of them like cars. You know, cars are just tools. They help us go from
0:04.5	place to place. I wouldn't want a toddler driving a car because they don't have that kind of
0:09.5	skill set, nor psychological development. And I don't want many people working with
0:15.3	psychedelic states if they don't have the skill set or the psychological development to be able
0:19.8	to come intimately into those places that they fear the most. So oftentimes if people say,
0:24.6	well, I want to have an experience where I want to start the process. I say, well, great.
0:29.5	I appreciate your eagerness or your curiosity at minimum. Do you have a meditation practice?
0:34.4	Do you have an experience of getting really scared or, you know, up and close and personal with
0:40.0	something that feels very uncomfortable? And if so, how did you manage it? Have you ever been
0:44.5	in a float tank? Do you know what a float tank is? Can you be with yourself in the dark alone?
0:50.3	If that's scary, how do you deal with it? When you get triggered or stressed, how do you deal
0:55.7	with that? And so there's a lot to talk about kind of leading in how to self-regulate, how to
1:01.4	come back to breath, how to recognize in the mind goes on a crazy loop, get curious, and recontextualize
1:10.0	the interest level because the ego typically moves away from the discomfort, particularly in our
1:15.1	society. We don't like being uncomfortable. And yet, that can be rehabilitated. We can tell a
1:20.9	different story. Welcome to Therapist Uncensored. Building on decades of professional experience,
1:28.4	this podcast tackles neurobiology, modern attachment, and more, in an honest way that's helpful
1:33.6	in healing humans. Your session begins now with Dr. Anne Kelly and Sue Marriott.
1:45.1	Everyone, Sue and I are closely following the really exciting developments in psychedelic
1:50.3	assisted psychotherapy. It's an area that's changing really quickly as the FDA trials keep generating
1:56.3	consistently good news about the effects that these molecules have in conjunction with psychotherapy.
2:02.6	Sue says all the time, it's about psychedelic assisted therapy. So it's an emphasis on
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