Yeah. You can think of them like cars. You know, cars are just tools. They help us go from

place to place. I wouldn't want a toddler driving a car because they don't have that kind of

skill set, nor psychological development. And I don't want many people working with

psychedelic states if they don't have the skill set or the psychological development to be able

to come intimately into those places that they fear the most. So oftentimes if people say,

well, I want to have an experience where I want to start the process. I say, well, great.

I appreciate your eagerness or your curiosity at minimum. Do you have a meditation practice?

Do you have an experience of getting really scared or, you know, up and close and personal with

something that feels very uncomfortable? And if so, how did you manage it? Have you ever been

in a float tank? Do you know what a float tank is? Can you be with yourself in the dark alone?

If that's scary, how do you deal with it? When you get triggered or stressed, how do you deal

with that? And so there's a lot to talk about kind of leading in how to self-regulate, how to

come back to breath, how to recognize in the mind goes on a crazy loop, get curious, and recontextualize

the interest level because the ego typically moves away from the discomfort, particularly in our

society. We don't like being uncomfortable. And yet, that can be rehabilitated. We can tell a

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Everyone, Sue and I are closely following the really exciting developments in psychedelic

assisted psychotherapy. It's an area that's changing really quickly as the FDA trials keep generating

consistently good news about the effects that these molecules have in conjunction with psychotherapy.

Sue says all the time, it's about psychedelic assisted therapy. So it's an emphasis on

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