Hi guys, it's Jen Poient, Executive Producer of Noticell here.

And Joe Plourd, our super rad audio engineer and I have made something for you.

As many of you know, Manouche just came out with a TED Talk.

Yay Manouche!

And she also has a book coming out this week, and both are about the relationship between

boredom and creativity.

The book is called Board In Brilliant and it came out of a series of experiments Manouche

did with you, dear listeners, a few years back.

The big idea was to get you to track your smartphone usage and to maybe open up some time

and space for mind wandering, as a bit of a reprieve from our constant swiping, posting

and updating.

And it worked.

So Manouche and I were chatting the other day about some of the early interviews she

did for her research on the book.

And there was this one fascinating conversation that she had never had the chance to use

on the show.

It's a chat about the history of the word boredom, with a professor at the University of Calgary.

His name is Peter Tuhi and he is lovely.

I went back and listened and it sparked this weird left field idea.

Could we make something creative out of an interview about boredom?

And what would that sound like?

Could we help people get creatively bored with it?

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