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I think that like part of the path forward toward a more compassionate society,

one that's less sort of atomized, one that's more humanistic, if I can use like the language of my own worldview and community, you know, is embracing a world that lets us sort of be all these different people and sees that not as this like problem to overcome, but actually like part of what it means to be human and part of what makes us who we are.

From crooked media, this is unholyer than now.

I'm your host, Philip Picardy.

Okay everyone, so this is officially me coming to you

right after my first day of classes

at Harvard Divinity School.

I am a little bit overwhelmed if I'm being honest.

Divinity School and just like the concept

of being a 30 year old back in a classroom

is a lot more honestly than I was bargaining for.

But I'm actually really grateful for today's guest

and to be hosting a conversation with today's guest

today after I've had my first day because this guest actually has a background in

Divinity Schools. Chris Edmon is a noted atheist and a humanist chaplain who has been at Yale Divinity School, Harvard Divinity School,

and is now a professor of religious studies, Lutheran University.

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