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Chris, stop looking at your phone.

We've got work to do.

Sorry.

Got to do a Radio 4 program in a minute.

Yeah, I'm still not quite used to this whole thing on Radio 4.

Makes me set up straight. I like your dinner jacket and about tie.

Right, we're not alone in the studio, we've got some guests.

Guests would you like to introduce yourselves to the podcast nation?

I am Laura Parker, I'm the National Coordinator of Momentum

And I'm thrilled to meet you. I'm Gittoh Harry. I used to do some of this stuff on the radio more often than I went to work for a guy called

Boris Johnson a long time ago and he was mayor of London and now I do a bit of

this and that. And you used to do our old job. Political correspondent.

Indeed indeed and happy days they were too.

The pre- Podcast era.

Sad type.

The ancient history time before podcast.

Another used to work for Jeremy Corbyn.

I did. I was Jeremy Corbyn's private secretary in

what does that what does that mean in practical terms? Well they being a

private yeah in a previous life I was a civil servant this is shattering all of your images of momentum

I'm warming a lot to momentum good. Well if you leave the Tory party you're very

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