This is words matter with Norm Ornstein. We've got the votes and

screw the rest of you. And Dr. Kavita Patel.

These might be some of the smaller moments, you know, with all the bombshells.

Didn't catch people's eyes. Hello and I will welcome to Words Matter from the DSR network. Each week Norm

Ornstein and I will talk about the issues facing our country. As Norm were

headed not just into a very tenuous precarious cycle of elections and the implications for not just our country but for the globe.

But we're going to spend some time today talking about something that I can, it's very rare norm that you and I can say that there's a topic that every single human on this earth is affected by and it wouldn't be words matter if we didn't pay tribute and the honor and also reflections on the four-year

anniversary of March 13th of 2020 and the declaration by the World Health Organization

of the SARS-Cov COV2 virus, otherwise there's the COVID-19 virus

as a national emergency end a pandemic.

And I think that it's very fitting because you and I have come into these pods during COVID and also hopefully emerging from COVID if and when we ever do.

I still say that we're four years into it and it's still it's

still killing people and it's still causing an incredible amount of

misinformation but Norm thought that we would take time to just reflect and just talk about this.

And then for our members, we're going to have some special time for our members only section around the dysfunction of the house that

might not sound new but it has gotten even worse norm if that's true but norm first off

tell me how these tell me your thoughts on these four years and what this has meant to you.

So, Kavita, I went back in my time machine.

On March the 8th, 2020 I was on a jet blue flight to Miami because on the 9th we were

premiering our movie, The Definition of Insanity, at the Miami Film Festival.

And on that flight, I ended up sitting next to a woman who had a mask on but who coughed continuously throughout the flight.

I look back on that and just bless the Lord that it didn't result in me being one of the early cases with COVID.

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